Porcelain x Millefleur D’uccles?

[adhduccle]

So a while ago my millefleur d’uccle hen went missing, and we assumed her dead due to wandering off and running into a bobcat or fox in the area (as they’re allowed free range on the acreage, but stay relatively close to the house). Today she came back with 8 one-day-old chicks with her. We already know the sire (our porcelain d’uccle roo, as he’s the only rooster in the area), but the colours of the chicks confuse me. 2 are definitely porcelain like him, but the other 6 are all black? The images are of the hen, the roo, and one of the chicks (the hen was very angry about me following her around for pictures).

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I just LOVE a happy ending!

Porcelain is Lavender with buff. Lavender bred to anything else will breed as black.

Check out this link for pattern calculator...
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator

The second drop down tab is in English and has colors to choose from. When I ran it with your specs the stated result were...

50% Pullets, black patterned gold millefleur
50% Cockerels, black patterned gold millefleur

Is she taking the chicks back to the hidden nest every evening? I would destroy it and teach her the correct place to protect her babies.

What are you feeding? Your whole flock will be fine with unmedicated chick starter or flock raiser. But if you happen to use layer, you will wanna switch that out as soon as possible since it has too much calcium and not enough protein for the little's.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Your hen is mille fleur. Your rooster is not porcelain.
The two chicks aren't porcelain either. They're more like the MF.
Your rooster is missing the mottling. He may carry one gene for it or may not.
If not the chicks will also be missing it so not MF. If he carries it they can go either way. Either mottled or not.
Your rooster carries the partridge type so the striped chicks got that from both.
He also carries something else that is black or mostly black based. The black chicks got that gene from him so that's why its black. I would expect them to get some leakage as the age in same area as his straw coloring if males. Females may have none or some in their hackle areas.
Hard to nail things down with absolute certainly since your roosters genetics aren't quite known.
A mille fleur bred to a porcelain would produce 100% MF that carry lavender.

 

[The Moonshiner]

The lavender gene has nothing to do with producing black or black chicks.
Lavender is a dilute gene that dilutes color including black.
Lavender doesn't show if only one dose but it's the black under the lavender in a bird that produces the black.
Your MF is buff columbian with the mottled genes.
A porcelain is buff columbian with the mottled and lavender genes.
He is producing black because he is mostly black under the lavender. Its that black that caused the black chick. It has nothing to do with his lavender.
If he was a true porcelain he would be lavender but never produce a black chick with a MF because they aren't black underneath except where the columbian gene has pushed the black to and the black caused by the mottled gene.

 

[BlackHackle]

The lavender gene has nothing to do with producing black or black chicks.
Lavender is a dilute gene that dilutes color including black.
Lavender doesn't show if only one dose but it's the black under the lavender in a bird that produces the black.
Your MF is buff columbian with the mottled genes.
A porcelain is buff columbian with the mottled and lavender genes.
He is producing black because he is mostly black under the lavender. Its that black that caused the black chick. It has nothing to do with his lavender.
If he was a true porcelain he would be lavender but never produce a black chick with a MF because they aren't black underneath except where the columbian gene has pushed the black to and the black caused by the mottled gene.

Sorry, i just remembered that after I posted. My bad

 

[adhduccle]

I just LOVE a happy ending!

Porcelain is Lavender with buff. Lavender bred to anything else will breed as black.

Check out this link for pattern calculator...
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator

The second drop down tab is in English and has colors to choose from. When I ran it with your specs the stated result were...

50% Pullets, black patterned gold millefleur
50% Cockerels, black patterned gold millefleur

Is she taking the chicks back to the hidden nest every evening? I would destroy it and teach her the correct place to protect her babies.

What are you feeding? Your whole flock will be fine with unmedicated chick starter or flock raiser. But if you happen to use layer, you will wanna switch that out as soon as possible since it has too much calcium and not enough protein for the little's.

We have the flock on chick starter already as another one of our hens already has chicks with her. She has been taking them back to the nest in the afternoon, and I’ve been trying to track it down, but it’s very well hidden so it’s taking a bit to find (it’s hidden in a large area of grass that is well over 6ft tall, tracking her back to the nest in there is a bit hard ). Once I find it I plan to destroy it and move her to the proper area with the rest of the flock, thank you so much for this advice!!

 

[adhduccle]

The lavender gene has nothing to do with producing black or black chicks.
Lavender is a dilute gene that dilutes color including black.
Lavender doesn't show if only one dose but it's the black under the lavender in a bird that produces the black.
Your MF is buff columbian with the mottled genes.
A porcelain is buff columbian with the mottled and lavender genes.
He is producing black because he is mostly black under the lavender. Its that black that caused the black chick. It has nothing to do with his lavender.
If he was a true porcelain he would be lavender but never produce a black chick with a MF because they aren't black underneath except where the columbian gene has pushed the black to and the black caused by the mottled gene.

Thank you so much for explaining this to me!! He and the hen he came with last year were both marketed as self blues by the breeder, so we guessed him to be porcelain when he feathered up very differently from the hen (his appearance matched most closely with porcelain). I’m inexperienced with chicken genetics, so I really appreciate this breakdown of what’s going on with their colours. Thank you again

 

[EggSighted4Life]

marketed as self blues by the breeder,

He looks Lav to me... aka self blue. Just with leakage. Something I would select against.

Didn't realize porcelain was just what you decided.

 

[adhduccle]

He looks Lav to me... aka self blue. Just with leakage. Something I would select against.

Didn't realize porcelain was just what you decided.

Lol I’m a casual chicken keeper who doesn’t know much about colours, so excuse my lack of knowledge on this kinda stuff

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Lol I’m a casual chicken keeper who doesn’t know much about colours, so excuse my lack of knowledge on this kinda stuff

Even as an avid chicken keeper... I learn something new every single day and still have a LONG way to go.