Possible bumble foot?

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This girl has always had weird feet so we didn’t immediately catch this. Is it bumble foot? Her toe is swollen and the tip is basically black (she never had a normal nail on that toe so it’s not missing). She’s limping too.
How bad is this? Should I rush her to a vet?
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Her feet are really weird to begin with. She has extra nails where they’re not supposed to be and some missing that she should have. Here are pictures before the issues started.
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This girl has always had weird feet so we didn’t immediately catch this. Is it bumble foot? Her toe is swollen and the tip is basically black (she never had a normal nail on that toe so it’s not missing). She’s limping too.
How bad is this? Should I rush her to a vet?
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Her feet are really weird to begin with. She has extra nails where they’re not supposed to be and some missing that she should have. Here are pictures before the issues started.
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Wow, that is very odd... was she outside in the cold? It could be frostbite...
 
I agree it looks like frostbite. Chickens usually recover ok on their own, but she might lose some or all of that toe. Sometimes a bad foot injury can damage the veins enough that a toe will die from lack of blood, and that progresses much like frostbite (area turns black and falls off).
 
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How old is she?

Chickens can have defects, so the extra nails are not that unusual.

The missing parts are probably from past frostbite (?)

The darkened toe with the swelling, can we see the bottom of the foot and what it looks like between the top of her toes?

The middle toe looks to have some frostbite and is possibly going to die off, but it would be interesting to see it a little clearer.
With frostbite, really all you need to do is monitor the feet, keep the bird on clean dry bedding.


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Wow, that is very odd... was she outside in the cold? It could be frostbite...
She was losing weight for some reason before things started getting cold, she’s been inside since November so we could fatten her up again. She has been outside on warmer days (mostly supervised) and she’s a dummy who likes to play in the snow until she gets too cold but I don’t think it’s frostbite.
Only a couple of our birds have any frostbite and it’s on their wattles, the biggest wattles in the flock, and she was inside that night.

I really think it’s an infection of some kind. I had warned not to put any antibiotics with painkillers in them on the birds but I think one of us put some Polysporin on her foot a few days before the picture was taken. Hopefully it won’t make it worse.
 
I agree it looks like frostbite. Chickens usually recover ok on their own, but she might lose some or all of that toe. Sometimes a bad foot injury can damage the veins enough that a toe will die from lack of blood, and that progresses much like frostbite (area turns black and falls off).
Very unlikely to be frostbite in this case. She was inside for other reasons since early November.
 
How old is she?

Chickens can have defects, so the extra nails are not that unusual.

The missing parts are probably from past frostbite (?)

The darkened toe with the swelling, can we see the bottom of the foot and what it looks like between the top of her toes?

The middle toe looks to have some frostbite and is possibly going to die off, but it would be interesting to see it a little clearer.
With frostbite, really all you need to do is monitor the feet, keep the bird on clean dry bedding.


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She’s under a year old. March 1st hatch.
She hatched missing those nails.
Here’s a shot from April, you can see her little double side claws.
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She severed her extra toe on her right foot back in the summer, it was short compared to her other extra toe but the short one had a nail and the long one never did. You can see the stubby one before she lost it in the picture above.

Is there anything else that might look like frostbite? She hasn’t been outside much at all and only on warmer days.

I’ll try to get some pictures.
 
I agree it looks like frostbite. Chickens usually recover ok on their own, but she might lose some or all of that toe. Sometimes a bad foot injury can damage the veins enough that a toe will die from lack of blood, and that progresses much like frostbite (area turns black and falls off).
The swelling at the base of the toe happened a while after we initially noticed the toe change colour.
It wasn’t as dark and went farther up the toe but I figured her wonky nails were just a little infected so I gave her some oral antibiotics we had left over from the last time she almost died (ovary infection this summer). Now it’s much darker and more concentrated at the end of the toe as well as the base becoming inflamed.

That toe has always seemed to bother her a bit so it might be a good thing if the tip fell off but I’d like to make sure it isn’t too painful and I don’t want her to loose the whole toe if possible.
 
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As far as I know the only sort of infection that looks dark like that is one that has become gangrenous, and before then it would have presented with the usual swelling and redness. It also would smell awful. Your girl's toe looks largely ok except for the color change which makes me think it's some sort of circulation issue. You could try warm foot baths to help promote blood flow to the area if you haven't done that yet
 
As far as I know the only sort of infection that looks dark like that is one that has become gangrenous, and before then it would have presented with the usual swelling and redness. It also would smell awful. Your girl's toe looks largely ok except for the color change which makes me think it's some sort of circulation issue. You could try warm foot baths to help promote blood flow to the area if you haven't done that yet
Should I put anything in the water? Epsom salt or something? She tries to drink her bath water every time I’ve bathed her so anything I put in, I try to make it safe for consumption.
 

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