Post Phoenix Pics Please

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

that's right. 9 times out of 10 white phoenix are covering duckwing, usually silver, but can be any of them. So yes you would get more back, they'd just be split for rec white. So when you breed these new chicks together you will get solid whites again along with more duckwings.

only exception on whites would be the very rare case that you got dominate whites, which I highly doubt you will.

 

[stevearino]

Well I wanted to post a pic of my new white pair, but unfortunately a storm is coming in and the light went away rather early, so I didn't get a chance to get a picture. I'll get some up soon though. Tomorrow is Friday so I'll have a weekend to study them and research what I can on the genes. The person I got them from mentioned that the white was a double recessive gene and seemed to think that if I crossed my white male with a silver female, I would have a good chance of producing silvers. I'm not sure about that though, I'm totally new to breeding.

It is a total white pair, but I'm hoping that if I breed I can get silver and/or duckwing. Something that can show.

 

[onagadori]

that's right. 9 times out of 10 white phoenix are covering duckwing, usually silver, but can be any of them. So yes you would get more back, they'd just be split for rec white. So when you breed these new chicks together you will get solid whites again along with more duckwings.

only exception on whites would be the very rare case that you got dominate whites, which I highly doubt you will.

In which case if they were dom white and phoenix, they would be more than likely silver else, they would be pyle as red pigment is not effected by dom white. Where as recessive white covers red.. So a dom white silver duckwing would be all white.. But a dom white red duckwing would be pyle.. Of course there is what they call red splash which is mistaken for rec. White and is what happened when cy crossed two lines that seemed to be recessive.. However, red splash reacts like rec white but puts a dot in the chick down on the back of the head and also causes some colored feathers in the hackle or saddles of the otherwise solid white birds.. Cy breeds both types of rec white.

 

[stevearino]

Pardon my ignorance, but can somebody explain what exactly is, "pyle"? is it a coloring?

 

[onagadori]

Pardon my ignorance, but can somebody explain what exactly is, "pyle"?  is it a coloring?

Pyle is a coloration. Red pyle is Genetically the same as Black breasted red duckwing, but with an added gene. That gene is dominant white. The dominant white covers the black on the bird and thus caused it to be red and white instead of red and black.

 

[stevearino]

Aaah, okay. Thanks for explaining that. I see I have much to learn!

About to head off for work today, though I'll still be checking for forums and other sites for pictures and information on my new birds. This afternoon I'll be getting pictures to post on here.

 

[onagadori]

Aaah, okay.  Thanks for explaining that.  I see I have much to learn!

About to head off for work today, though I'll still be checking for forums and other sites for pictures and information on my new birds.  This afternoon I'll be getting pictures to post on here.

looking forward to the pics!

 

[stevearino]

Finally got a few pictures! Sorry they are not that good, but it was rather windy and freezing cold, so I was in a little bit of a rush. Not only that, the birds are still a bit shy when I come as I haven't had them very long.

Here is a pic of the female. It's a little blurry because she suddenly turned to jump down as I took the picture.


Here is my big boy (not that he is that big). Keep in mind, the lady I acquired them from gave them to me because she could not house him with her other roos. He got pretty beat up.


A decent picture of the two of them together.


The yellow in their feathers confuses me. I'm sure its the sun that turned them yellow, but sometimes I think otherwise.


Just another snapshot of the roo.



The male is about 2 years old, and the female is about 6 months older than he is. I really am having a hard time telling whether the blonde is from the sun discoloring the white feathers (my brother's polish have had this happen to them, so I've seen it happen) or whether there is actual blonde/gold in the bloodline.

Anyways, I'm excited to have my first pair of Phoenix I would hope I could get some silver out of them, but if not, that's okay. These are beautiful birds.

 

[onagadori]

Finally got a few pictures! Sorry they are not that good, but it was rather windy and freezing cold, so I was in a little bit of a rush. Not only that, the birds are still a bit shy when I come as I haven't had them very long. Here is a pic of the female. It's a little blurry because she suddenly turned to jump down as I took the picture. Here is my big boy (not that he is that big). Keep in mind, the lady I acquired them from gave them to me because she could not house him with her other roos. He got pretty beat up. A decent picture of the two of them together. The yellow in their feathers confuses me. I'm sure its the sun that turned them yellow, but sometimes I think otherwise. Just another snapshot of the roo. The male is about 2 years old, and the female is about 6 months older than he is. I really am having a hard time telling whether the blonde is from the sun discoloring the white feathers (my brother's polish have had this happen to them, so I've seen it happen) or whether there is actual blonde/gold in the bloodline. Anyways, I'm excited to have my first pair of Phoenix I would hope I could get some silver out of them, but if not, that's okay. These are beautiful birds.

The yellowing could be because he is a bbred under the white.. But it could also be caused from the Sun..

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep was about to say the same thing once I saw him, bb red under the white, or sun discoloration.