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I LOVE the silver phoenix. That would be the next variety that I would like to breed. Great looking birds.
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We got some Pheonix chicks (Silver) back on 4/19/11. once they started getting bigger we singled out one (chick 1 aka 'mononoke') that seemed to be the male because it had a much longer tail than the others.

Mononoke;
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after a while we saw another one that seemed to have a more destinct tail -so we were thinking we had 2 males and 2 females. this second male (chick 2 aka 'Shun') had rally horrible feathering, missing some in some areas-it seemed to go from fluff to half bald half full feathers.

Shun;
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none of the others did this, so we were hoping he was a sort of 'ugly duckling' that may feather out great later on his second molt. well..he 'shun' is definatly a male, silver and black now, where as the one that we thought first was a male hasn't changed colour yet, but has still a longer tail than the females-it also has a few down curled feathers. (see photo 'mononoke'). Now we have seen this with our Japanese-where one advanced male can begin crowing early and start expressing male characteristics early and then the other males take weeks or months to catch up.

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I would appreciate feedback on their show potential, but I am wondering if I still will have that early developer end up being a roo, or if that scrawny cockrel (Shun) fill out better on his second moult. How long do they take to show gender?
 
the pics you have posted a female, male, female

that first pic is showing a slight cockerel feathered hen, we taked about that a few post back. Those make excellent breeder stock for great males, ie, the better the tail on the female, usually the better looking the male offspring will look.

as for the cock bird, he's a silver birchen, where the hens are silver duckwing. When bred together, you will just get 50% of each color.



His tail is horrible, but that's damage, not a quality issue. Let him molt out again and see what he ends up like. Most likely he either got a bad case of mites, or was feather picked while they were in blood feather ( a common thing with phoenix).

I dont like his comb as far as being show quality, and the motled breast would cause trouble for you too where that's concerned. That and birchen is a recognized color too.

As for sexing phoenix, once you get familiar with the breed, it's pretty easy by a couple weeks old. The males comb will be a bit bigger by then, By 3- 4 weeks old, the PULLETS will be getting long tails. In all cases, regardless of when it happens, once they start to feather up, the pullets feather faster and will always have a longer tail the first little bit than the males. After a couple weeks, the males obviously will pass them , but the hens feather the fastest as chicks.

Hope that helps.





and Amanda,

yes that was another beautiful painting. Gonna have to get you to do me one one of these days
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