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Quote: me too !!

 

[ShrekDawg]

Don't know if it's on YouTube but here's a live album on Spotify. I love Tenth Avenue North and all the songs on here but I love the live version because of what he says/preaches between songs. Some parts of the speech kind of continue on into the next track so you gotta listen in order not shuffle this was early in their career, like 2011 and I think their first album was 2008 so that's cool too and yeah. Mike has a lot of YouTube videos too. I love the way he teaches/preaches and he's such a funny dude too. I also love Matthew West and Sidewalk Prophets haha those are 2 separate groups btw haha but yeah.

https://open.spotify.com/album/4qBBMQNYOel7QFU3oda1YD

post the youtube videos on here that you like

I'm not sure if it's on YouTube, I would have to look. I'm sure it probably is but I've only ever listened to it on Spotify. I'll go look

I found it on YouTube!

 

[ocap]

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Ezekiel 20:5
and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I chose Israel, I swore with uplifted hand to the descendants of Jacob and revealed myself to them in Egypt. With uplifted hand I said to them, “I am the Lord your God.”

Ezekiel 28:25
“‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob.

Ezekiel 37:25
They will live in the land I gave to my servant Jacob, the land where your ancestors lived. They and their children and their children’s children will live there forever, and David my servant will be their prince forever.

Ezekiel 39:25
“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name.



Hosea 10:11
Ephraim is a trained heifer that loves to thresh; so I will put a yoke on her fair neck. I will drive Ephraim, Judah must plow, and Jacob must break up the ground.

Hosea 12:2
The Lord has a charge to bring against Judah; he will punish Jacob according to his ways and repay him according to his deeds.

Hosea 12:12
Jacob fled to the country of Aram; Israel served to get a wife, and to pay for her he tended sheep.

 

[shortgrass]

Jacob Study ............... comments appreciated
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[COLOR=0066CC]Ezekiel 20:5[/COLOR] and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I chose Israel, I swore with uplifted hand to the descendants of Jacob and revealed myself to them in Egypt. With uplifted hand I said to them, “I am the Lord your God.” [COLOR=0066CC]Ezekiel 28:25[/COLOR] “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob. [COLOR=0066CC]Ezekiel 37:25[/COLOR] They will live in the land I gave to my servant Jacob, the land where your ancestors lived. They and their children and their children’s children will live there forever, and David my servant will be their prince forever. [COLOR=0066CC]Ezekiel 39:25[/COLOR] “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name.


[COLOR=0066CC]Hosea 10:11[/COLOR] Ephraim is a trained heifer that loves to thresh; so I will put a yoke on her fair neck. I will drive Ephraim, Judah must plow, and Jacob must break up the ground. [COLOR=0066CC]Hosea 12:2[/COLOR] The Lord has a charge to bring against Judah; he will punish Jacob according to his ways and repay him according to his deeds. [COLOR=0066CC]Hosea 12:12[/COLOR] Jacob fled to the country of Aram; Israel served to get a wife, and to pay for her he tended sheep.

What is the context of that?... Symbolic of what? I'm having a problem remembering Ephraim and where I'd heard that somewhere else in scripture...

 

[shortgrass]

Ah ok, I found 2 verses that I'm thinking mean something, but do they tie in to Hosea 10:11?

Ephraim is a trained heifer that loves to thresh; so I will put a yoke on her fair neck. I will drive Ephraim, Judah must plow, and Jacob must break up the ground.


In the NT,


1 Corinthians 9:8-11

8 Do I say these things as a mere man? Or does not the law say the same also? 9 For it is written in the law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain.”[a] Is it oxen God is concerned about? 10 Or does He say it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written, that he who plows should plow in hope, and he who threshes in hope should be partaker of his hope. 11 If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things?


1 Timothy 5:17-18

17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,”[c] and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.”



How does that apply? Or does it?

 

[Jesusfreak101]

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Will pray for you it IS flu season, so stock up on the OJ and some bananas, might help boost your immunity a bit, better safe than sorry
LOL really? Too much oxygen or something? drunk on air, that's new and eerie ha-ha. Must be all those cells that were starving for oxygen having a party in there [/quotelol I wish it was just air lol it's actually a drug like an almost like a asthma medication it suppose to stop coughing and weezing I assume it opens up your air ways lol but yeah they said it is a side effect it elevates your heart rate which cause the symptom. I need to learn to stop pushing myself tofar through not helping anything I just get cranky and become a ***** then no one likes and then I add to the problems. Having some hard lessons dealt my way right now .

 

[ShrekDawg]

My asthma medicine is like that which is why I don't like taking it lol my asthma is mostly gone these days but when I get sick I take it. I never get the drunk feeling though LOL but it elevates my heart rate/makes me somewhat shakey and feel kinda funny. I used to take Flovent to open it up then the Albuteral is the actual med or maybe it was albuteral to open it lol idk but now I just have albuteral. Aha but yeah, makes me feel all sorts of funny aha but I get over it soon enough. And sorry you're having such a rough time

 

[ocap]

Ah ok, I found 2 verses that I'm thinking mean something, but do they tie in to Hosea 10:11?

Ephraim is a trained heifer that loves to thresh; so I will put a yoke on her fair neck. I will drive Ephraim, Judah must plow, and Jacob must break up the ground.


In the NT,


1 Corinthians 9:8-11

8 Do I say these things as a mere man? Or does not the law say the same also? 9 For it is written in the law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain.”[a] Is it oxen God is concerned about? 10 Or does He say it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written, that he who plows should plow in hope, and he who threshes in hope should be partaker of his hope. 11 If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things?


1 Timothy 5:17-18

17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,”[c] and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.”



How does that apply? Or does it?

I am thinking that the similarity is so great that it must apply but I do not understand how or why.

 

[shortgrass]

I am thinking that the similarity is so great that it must apply but I do not understand how or why.

I was pretty far off lol, although there is still significance to NOT muzzling the ox.... In this case, the ox is needing to be tamed down and trained.

Ephraim was one if Joseph's sons, grandson of Israel and one if the 12 tribes. A big bad one evidently...

I pulled this from "got questions"...


Question: "What should we learn from the tribe of Ephraim?"

Answer: Israel’s twelve tribes were named for Jacob’s children or, in the case of Ephraim (and Manasseh), his grandchildren. Ephraim was born in Egypt to Joseph's wife, Asenath. Joseph named his second-born son “Ephraim” because “God has made me fruitful in the land of my suffering” (Genesis 41:52). When Jacob gave his blessing to his grandsons Ephraim and Manasseh, he chose to bless the younger Ephraim first, despite Joseph’s protests. In doing so, Jacob noted that Ephraim would be greater than Manasseh (Genesis 48:5–21).

Throughout the Old Testament, the name Ephraim often refers to the ten tribes comprising Israel’s Northern Kingdom, not just the single tribe named after Joseph’s son (Ezekiel 37:16; Hosea 5:3). The Northern Kingdom, also referred to as “Israel,” was taken into captivity by the Assyrians in 722 BC (Jeremiah 7). The Southern Kingdom, also known as Judah, was conquered by the Babylonians nearly 140 years later (586 BC).

We learn from the tribe of Ephraim (and the other tribes) about our human essence, who we are as people. The history of the early Israelites reflects our universally flawed and sinful nature. As the book of Romans says, “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).

There are several specific events regarding the tribe of Ephraim that we can learn from. While God gifted the tribe as warriors and valiant fighters (1 Chronicles 12:30), Ephraim failed to follow God’s order to remove the Canaanites from the Promised Land (Exodus 23:23–25; Judges 1:29; Joshua 16:10).

During the time of the judges, the Ephraimites became angry with Gideon because he had not initially called for their help in battling the Midianites (Judges 8:1). Gideon wisely displayed godly kindness and extolled the tribe’s commitment and willingness to serve the Lord, thus diffusing what could have become an ugly situation (Judges 8:2–3).

However, ugliness did arise later, and again it can be linked to Ephraim’s pride, jealously, and self-centeredness. When Jephthah chose to fight (and defeat) the Ammonites without the aid of the proud Ephraim warriors, a civil war erupted, and 42,000 warriors from Ephraim were killed. As Jesus said in His Sermon on the Mount, we are to seek first the kingdom of God (Matthew 6:33). Do not seek glory for yourself; all honor and glory always belong to God, not to man.

Often, God chooses to use us in a manner less glamorous or spectacular than we would like. Do we pout? Do we yearn for glory? Do we control our pride and jealousy and accept God’s will? Many of us, like the Ephraimites, have difficulty learning those lessons well. God says that we should accept what happens to us as His will, regardless of how good or bad those circumstances seem to us (1 Thessalonians 5:16–18).

Other lessons of Ephraim complete the picture of the wide range of human behavior. We see Ephraim turning away from God and doing wicked things (Isaiah 28:1–3), yet we also find the tribe recognizing the need to repent and obey by following the prophet Oded’s instructions (2 Chronicles 28:12).

The biggest lesson from the history of Ephraim is that God loves us as the Perfect Father despite our failings. He is patient and merciful beyond our understanding. He hears our cries of anguish, disciplines and guides us, knows our moments of repentance, and yearns for us to be in perfect communion with Him (Jeremiah 30:22; 31:18–20).

 

[shortgrass]

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Will pray for you it IS flu season, so stock up on the OJ and some bananas, might help boost your immunity a bit, better safe than sorry
LOL really? Too much oxygen or something? drunk on air, that's new and eerie ha-ha. Must be all those cells that were starving for oxygen having a party in there [/quotelol I wish it was just air lol it's actually a drug like an almost like a asthma medication it suppose to stop coughing and weezing I assume it opens up your air ways lol but yeah they said it is a side effect it elevates your heart rate which cause the symptom. I need to learn to stop pushing myself tofar through not helping anything I just get cranky and become a ***** then no one likes and then I add to the problems. Having some hard lessons dealt my way right now .

I'll bet it's the steroids. I get extremely moody when I take any kind of steroids, and need to be real careful when I come off if them because I'll crash, almost like coming off of other addictive drugs. It's a hormone, so they can alter your moods. Keep that in mind, its not you, its the chemicals in the medicine making you unbearably feisty... I pray you(and DH) are able to withstand it long enough to repair the damage to your lungs so you can get off of it and be back to normal...

My asthma medicine is like that which is why I don't like taking it lol my asthma is mostly gone these days but when I get sick I take it. I never get the drunk feeling though LOL but it elevates my heart rate/makes me somewhat shakey and feel kinda funny. I used to take Flovent to open it up then the Albuteral is the actual med or maybe it was albuteral to open it lol idk but now I just have albuteral. Aha but yeah, makes me feel all sorts of funny aha but I get over it soon enough. And sorry you're having such a rough time

That's what DH takes, albuterol. He also takes prednisone, but I've never noticed his moods changing, just when he's out and panicking about not breathing. I know he's not supposed to quit taking it though or he will have withdrawal.

I guess I'm fairly blessed to be able to breathe without chemical assistance