President vs. Arizona

[Capvin]

How much gas do you actually use in a year? figure about the same amount of gallons of gas multiply that by about 50 cents a gallon heck lets say 1.00 a gallon which is more than what the tax breaks amount to and that is the price you are complaining about personally that it may cost you to have the oil industry and the by products generated by it being cheap compared to other countries and what they pay per person. The government gives big oil a tax break and give you a fuel tax... me thinks you are mad at the wrong people. Think of it as socialized gasoline.

It is actually a fine example of redistribution of wealth by the government that we actually benefit from... everyone pays big oil by way of tax breaks and we all get cheap oil. The Obamazites should like that I would think. Coveting big oil tax breaks is wrong.

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Did someone pass gas??

 

[chickened]

Did someone pass gas??

 

[heritagehabitatfarms]

i still don't understand what PPL think Exxon is going to do with that 41 Billion dollars??? yes they will keep some for ready cash but the rest is spent somehow... whether given to the stock holder as a dividend or spent next year... even if they pay there CEO and other big shots millions they in turn spend or invest the money it all filters down somehow...

 

[chickened]

The real issue is not about the oil. Everyone benefits from cheap oil. It is about politics, and one party demonizing another.

Our government has a spending problem not a taxing problem.

It is a distraction.

i still don't understand what PPL think Exxon is going to do with that 41 Billion dollars??? yes they will keep some for ready cash but the rest is spent somehow... whether given to the stock holder as a dividend or spent next year... even if they pay there CEO and other big shots millions they in turn spend or invest the money it all filters down somehow...

 

[hemet dennis]

If you raise the cost of doing business for any company who do you think ends up paying for it ?

If they are making $30billion now and raise the tax rate to 30% or 40% they will still make $30 billion.

 

[Capvin]

You think it filters down, you could not be more wrong and that theroy is economic nonsense. Tonight at 8PM on the Food Network was a documentary entitled "Hunger Hits Home" that focused on starving children in this country. In California alone there are more then 2.5 million children that are hungry every day. In the US more then 1 in 5 children go hungry. You think it is trickling down to any of them. What trickles down to hungry children is the services our taxes pay not any of that money from oil pigs. Think that those tax breaks provide us with cheap oil. That is even more nonsensical. To have one starving child in this country is a sin in anyones religious beliefs. Just 4 billion of that obsene 41 billion profit would feed every one of those 2.5 million children,

 

[heritagehabitatfarms]

i don't believe that number at all... i would have to see how they calculate it... 1 in 5 children going hungry??? 1 in 7 ppl in the USA is on food stamps!!! i have been very poor my whole life... my dad and mom raised 7 kids on 20k or less most of my childhood... the poverty level is/was 38k for a family of 4... and i never went hungry not once... when i moved out on my own at 17 i lived off of ramen noodles for 6 months... even now working 60+ hours a week me and the wife live paycheck to paycheck... but that is our choice...

it is not the Governments job now is it the oil company's job to feed the PPL of this USA... there is so much fraud and waste in the USA now... i have seen PPL getting 600+ a month of food stamps go the 1st of the month and blow it on steak and fancy expensive food and then 3 weeks later have no food in the house... that is mismanagement... most of the so called hunger in the USA is from mismanagement... other than a short term disaster fire/hurricane/tornado there should not be anyone going hungry in the USA... there is also plenty of jobs here... if you cant find a job where u live MOVE North Dakota alone has 35'000 job openings right now... i have been to/worked in 47 states and seen some of the worst places in them Detroit/NYC slums/Vegas/LA slums... and most of the ppl there chose to be in the shape they are in... and the ones that don't there is food-stamps/disability/food-shelves/SSI to help them... i know single mothers of 4 kids that bring home more government handouts than i make working 60+ hours a week... and 1 in 5 kids is hungry!!! NO way...

You think it filters down, you could not be more wrong and that theroy is economic nonsense. Tonight at 8PM on the Food Network was a documentary entitled "Hunger Hits Home" that focused on starving children in this country. In California alone there are more then 2.5 million children that are hungry every day. In the US more then 1 in 5 children go hungry. You think it is trickling down to any of them. What trickles down to hungry children is the services our taxes pay not any of that money from oil pigs. Think that those tax breaks provide us with cheap oil. That is even more nonsensical. To have one starving child in this country is a sin in anyones religious beliefs. Just 4 billion of that obsene 41 billion profit would feed every one of those 2.5 million children,

 

[redhen]

You need to get out into the real world sometime..

 

[hemet dennis]

You need to get out into the real world sometime..

Who ?

 

[bakerjw]

Yes, by all means get out in the real world. Go to the third world to see hunger and poverty first hand, then come back and go to any buffet and count the fat people. Every time that I'd come back for South America I was sickened by what I saw when I returned.

I do not doubt that there are children and their families that go hungry, but I have to wonder how many of them have cable TV? High speed internet? Cell phones? In Ecuador I saw people manage to feed themselves because they were responsible for their own welfare. If they didn't fend for themselves then they'd go hungry. Here we have food stamps that are abused like crazy and we have an ethic that says wait for someone else to come help me.

There was an article last winter featuring a woman complaining because she didn't get into a line for power bill assistance early enough. Behind her was a 40"+ flat screen TV for crying out loud. We will never solve out problems until Americans start to be responsible for themselves and less reliant on the government to care for them.