I have bought nice 4H birds before. No I did not ask them to come down in price. One because I really wanted the birds and two the money was the childs only way to getting more birds to show in the future. This young man was so polite and really knew his birds. It can at times pay off. His father stopped in where I work one day and offered all the banties to me for free. Of course I took them and the ones I could not keep did the same thing offered them to someone who might want them free also. I still have 2 of the d'uccle hens. I always believe in good Karma.