Prison Violence

[babylady4]

The ACLU would have a field day with all of you....... me included!

Here in the good ole USA, the way to get 3 squares a day, free education, free R&B, and free gym facilities is of course commit a felony and go to prison for a few years! No worried about taxes, bills, etc...... heck, cheaper than the retirement homes too! All medical expenses paid for!


So why are the REST of us LAW abiding citizens stuck with the dang bills for these people? I WANT MY HANDOUT! MY TURN FOR A GOVERNMENT BAILOUT!!!!!

 

[AK Michelle]

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Grandpa's a smart man

 

[Rozzie]

Good golly, I'm glad some of you aren't in charge.

Remember, plenty of folks who are in our nation's prisons are not there for committing violent offenses. Plenty of them are there for non-violent offenses.

That doesn't mean I think guards should risk their lives or safety in a situation like this. However, to classify all people in our nation's prison system into some lump term like animal or predator is just plain ridiculous. It's also uniformed.

What we need in our prison system is lockup / removal from society for those who are truly dangerous & rehabilitation for those who are not a real danger to society. We need education and assistance at creating an actual life worth living for people convicted of non-predatory crimes.

Self edited for language before I get my hands slapped for saying something that would be okay in a G rated film...or maybe PG...

 

[PineappleMama]

Someone who steals is preying on others... thus a predator.

Maybe not stealing their LIFE, like a murderer, but they are stealing what they worked for and eradicating that victim's faith in the sanctity of their home... something that cannot just be handed back to them when the predator is caught.

If you don't want to be lumped in with criminals then don't commit a crime.

I don't think any prisoner should be guaranteed any right that any non-criminal citizen isn't. Of course I also think that politicians shouldn't be granted special privileges either.

 

[pbjmaker]

And just in time for this thread...

http://www.kcci.com/news/25962022/detail.html

 

[J.Pryce]

I agree with you folks, No rights. We always hear about jail overcrowding- I know how to empty them Burial plots(Death Penalty).

 

[colowyo0809]

Not that I don't agree with the general ideas here, but lets take a step back and think about this for a minute. How would ya'll feel if your father, brother, sister, aunt, cousin, grandfather was convicted of rape/molestation/mugging/killing/etc. they were in the system for a number of years. they got cut, raped, stabbed, beaten. then it was discovered that they were innocent. still the right thing to do? Still ok to advocate killing all the scum in the system? Just because someone is in the system doesn't mean they are guilty. You simply cannot paint everyone with the same brush. People who are without a doubt rapists, killers, or would be rapists/killers? sure! but otherwise? i think they should be confined to single cells, every one of them, given basic rights, should be working to support themselves i.e, food prep, laundry, etc etc etc, and released when time is up. problem with society today is that too many people are ok with throwing everyone that looks like they should be in jail in jail and "letting the Good Lord" sort em out. bushwah. some people made mistakes, some people are innocent, and some people, criminals though they are, don't deserve the treatment ya'll are clamoring for. who are any of you to judge? which one of you is so completely innocent that you can throw stones? I can guarentee, any one of you, including myself, who posted in this thread, by virtue of posting in this thread, aren't.

 

[redhen]

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I agree..

I've lived a crazy life (in my younger days..

..) and i still never did anything that would land me in jail. I always knew not to cross that certain line.
If you dont want to go to jail with the scum bags... then dont cross that line.

ETA: Oh and i will call them animlas.. because that how they act. Like wild animals, with no remorse or shame for the things they do.

 

[redhen]

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Thats what i'm saying... let them slice each other open. Wouldnt faze me the least bit. Just a few less perps that can get free and commit more crimes on people.

 

[PineappleMama]

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And that is why our system is the way it is... Just In Case the person isn't guilty they should be given every courtesy. Which I do understand, if it was ME and I knew I hadn't done anything I'd be doing everything I could to make it known. But unless I was there there's no sure way for me to know that my father, brother, neighbor whatever didn't do what they're charged with. That's why it's a jury of people without that conflict of interest that have to make the call.

I think that happened a lot more in past years than it's happening today. Science has improved. But still there is the chance that the person didn't do it. Which is why SO many things are not allowed into the trial. But on that same note it's gotten to where a tape of the event isn't allowed... a witness to the crime isn't allowed... even mentioning that this person has done the same thing 20 times before isn't allowed. Originally the intent was to protect the innocent victims AND non-guilty suspects... and also to ensure that the guilty were punished. But that has been warped to the point where now the guilty are walking free every single day. Let loose to cause MORE damage. Rob more homes, rape more women, molest more children, take more lives. It is a LOT easier to get off than it is to be convicted nowadays. So, no, I really don't feel too sorry for the ones that have so much evidence against them that they got a guilty verdict and were sentenced because the VAST majority of them were totally guilty, knew it, and STILL plead not guilty just to try and weasel out of the responsibility for their actions. Also, anyone else notice that not once has a criminal been fined/jailed for PERJURY for that Not Guilty plea and testimony? That's another crime on top of the one they're already on trial for that the courts just let slip right on by. Of course it's VERY rare for perjury to be charged in any case... unless it's a well known figure and they're trying to 'set an example' then they don't bother with the folks corrupting the system. Bit of a pet peeve that.

I admit, it can be tricky but for clear cases... I am 100% in agreement with Mr Ron White...

I'm from Texas and in Texas we have the death penalty and we use it. That's right, if you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back. That's our policy. Right now there's a bill in the Texas legislature that would speed up the execution process of those convicted of a heinous crime with more than three credible witnesses. If more than three people saw you do what you did you don't sit on death row for 15 years Jack, you go straight to the front of the line. Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state's puttin in an express lane.