Prison Violence

[redhen]

Last i knew everyone was innocent in prison..


I do understand what you mean though.. yes, some folks do get falsely charged. And that truly sucks for them..
But in todays society.. theres more you can do to prove your innocence. Times have changed in the courts...

 

[Nekhebet]

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I'm sure. However that doesn't change the fact that innocent people convicted for whatever reason have been freed by forensic science.
I'm also sure that some people out there may actually feel bad if one of those people proved innocent was shived on their shift, and they could have prevented it.

 

[chickaddict]

I think "prisoners rights" should be an oxymoron, unfortunately it isn't.


I don't think prisoners should be allowed access to television sets, computers or exercise equipment.

Education and social therapy, however, should be required of any inmate before their release into society. Lack of education is a huge problem in this country, the results of which can be found in any prison in the nation.

And NO I'm not saying that all prisoners are uneducated, but I'll bet most of them are.


Prisons are overcrowded - yes, but not with new inmates. Most of the people in prison have been there many, many, many times.


Educate them and socialize them and just maybe they won't be back.

 

[Rozzie]

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Education in today's world includes learning how to use a computer. It may not include full access to the whole world of the Internet, but it includes computer use (though basic literacy & eduction could be considered prerequisites.)

 

[redhen]

Most inmates, (if not all) have access to education and therapy...
Actually a lot of them are mandated therapy or group therapy as part of their sentence. Whether it be domestic violence therapy or NA or sex offender therapy...
Yet... they keeeep coming back....

 

[Nekhebet]

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This is a misconception. The physical evidence is not always there...it depends on who collects it, when they are able to collect it, and if the evidence is collected and STORED properly.

DNA degrades in plastic bags, but not everyone knows that. This is one of many things that will make a sample UNTESTABLE. Time destroys evidence as well. And sometimes, evidence gets LOST in custody. Sometimes, due to the circumstances, juries experience the "CSI effect"...and expect exculpatory/enculpatory evidence when circumstances don't provide any.

The people the innocence project frees did not necessarily have DNA testing available at the time of their conviction. I remember one case in which the gentleman had the foresight to ask the evidence in the rape saved...and when feasible (read: cheap, relatively fast and AVAILABLE) dna testing rolled about, he was freed.

Edit: format, because I'm dizzy

 

[redhen]

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This is a misconception. The physical evidence is not always there...it depends on who collects it, when they are able to collect it, and if the evidence is collected and STORED properly.

DNA degrades in plastic bags, but not everyone knows that. This is one of many things that will make a sample UNTESTABLE. Time destroys evidence as well. And sometimes, evidence gets LOST in custody. And sometimes, due to the circumstances, juries experience the "CSI effect"...and expect exculpatory/culpatory evidence when circumstances don't provide any.

The people the innocence project frees did not necessarily have DNA testing available at the time of their conviction. I remember one case in which the gentleman had the foresight to ask the evidence in the rape saved...and when feasible (read: cheap, relatively fast and AVAILABLE) dna testing rolled about, he was freed.

Smart guy!

 

[joebryant]

I wish they'd throw some of our corrupt politicians, especially "judges", into prison where they belong, especially with some of those goons who would beat the daylights out of them on a regular basis.

 

[Nekhebet]

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This is a misconception. The physical evidence is not always there...it depends on who collects it, when they are able to collect it, and if the evidence is collected and STORED properly.

DNA degrades in plastic bags, but not everyone knows that. This is one of many things that will make a sample UNTESTABLE. Time destroys evidence as well. And sometimes, evidence gets LOST in custody. And sometimes, due to the circumstances, juries experience the "CSI effect"...and expect exculpatory/culpatory evidence when circumstances don't provide any.

The people the innocence project frees did not necessarily have DNA testing available at the time of their conviction. I remember one case in which the gentleman had the foresight to ask the evidence in the rape saved...and when feasible (read: cheap, relatively fast and AVAILABLE) dna testing rolled about, he was freed.

Smart guy!

LOL, agreed.

 

[redhen]

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Good idea, Joe!