Probably wrong, but thinking out loud about the TSC “BRs”

[Painted Calls]

This reminds me of the other Hoover situation where people were getting LF dark-skinned birds that caused a bit of confusion. They're finally listed by Hoover as Mystic Onix this year and being called "new for 2021" despite people receiving many last year with no info on their website previously.... https://hoovershatchery.com/mysticonyx.html

I remember those! Nice to have a definitive answer.

@The Moonshiner look!

 

[The Moonshiner]

Don't remember those. First thing I remember about HH getting sideways was when they put out the Asian Blacks at TSC.

 

[EmmaRainboe]

Is it possible that the girls in these photos https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/what-breed-are-these-ladies.1445315/
are actually koshers and not phony barred rocks?

Yep, I had actually gone back when I first made this thread and pointed that out. OPs chickens looked especially meaty.

 

[EmmaRainboe]

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thats all I have right now, I'll come back tomorrow with full body photos. I have never looked too closely into chicken breed standards, so let me know what you think. Does she look like a barred rock, or a mutt? either way, shes a good girl

She‘s a hatchery barred rock. Not a “mutt” but very different to heritage BRs.

 

[chickentrains]

She‘s a hatchery barred rock. Not a “mutt” but very different to heritage BRs.

So the equivalent to a byb dog, but in the chicken world?

 

[JacinLarkwell]

So the equivalent to a byb dog, but in the chicken world?

That's how I consider them.

 

[EmmaRainboe]

Honestly, I'm not sure. I'm just following this thread because it seems fairly interesting.

Question: Does any of this have to do with autosexing? I'm just thinking aloud here, because I know that Plymouth Rocks are autosexing, and they are closely related. Again, I might be spiraling off in a completely different direction, but I am curious.

I suppose it’s possible they mixed something in to help fix the autosexing. Most hatchery lines have lost the autosexing trait, and all of these weird BRs that I’ve seen have all been female. Though that could just be chance as vent severs usually have a ~90% success rate.

 

[EmmaRainboe]

So the equivalent to a byb dog, but in the chicken world?

I think of them more as a puppy mill.

 

[Lacy Duckwing]

Wait-

Maisy the Cuckoo Maran (Mix)

• Lacy Duckwing
• Dec 21, 2020

Maisy the Cuckoo Maran (Mix)

• Lacy Duckwing
• Dec 21, 2020
• 2

Maisy the Cuckoo Maran (Mix).

My Flock

• Lacy Duckwing
• Dec 21, 2020

It looks like Maisy is teaching my flock.

I don't know what Maisy is. She's originally from Mt. Healthy Hatchery. She caught my eye as a weirdly marked BR, but because Mt. Healthy Hatchery is now carrying the Cuckoo Marans, I've assumed that was what she was. She doesn't lay the chocolate eggs. She's obviously not a BR going by markings and weight. She's too light. So, I've been guessing maybe Cuckoo Maran mix. What's my Maisy?

In case of anyone wondering, I didn't read through all the pages, just page 1.

 

[FuzzyCritters]

Wait-

Maisy the Cuckoo Maran (Mix)

• Lacy Duckwing
• Dec 21, 2020

Maisy the Cuckoo Maran (Mix)

• Lacy Duckwing
• Dec 21, 2020
• 2

Maisy the Cuckoo Maran (Mix).

My Flock

• Lacy Duckwing
• Dec 21, 2020

It looks like Maisy is teaching my flock.

I don't know what Maisy is. She's originally from Mt. Healthy Hatchery. She caught my eye as a weirdly marked BR, but because Mt. Healthy Hatchery is now carrying the Cuckoo Marans, I've assumed that was what she was. She doesn't lay the chocolate eggs. She's obviously not a BR going by markings and weight. She's too light. So, I've been guessing maybe Cuckoo Maran mix. What's my Maisy?

In case of anyone wondering, I didn't read through all the pages, just page 1.

Looks like one of the weird colored rocks. Cuckoo Marans should have white legs.