well, Wish I had gotten an alert you posted @Wyorp Rock weather is too cold. I did make soaking a little easier by putting her in the pot but in an unused bathtub. The prolapse was out and looked dry or something crusty on the outside edges. Should of took a picture. After soaking in salts I used the antibiotic again and added aloe as well. Pushed it back in and it hurt her. She cried this time. Bout broke my heart. She is old english jubilee orph. humongous bird. I held it in again for an hr. but I havent looked. Its hard to see. I trembled for half an hr. afterwards. Im just not sure I can do this. Its tearing me up.