Pros and cons of organic vs nonorganic?

[rfeyer]

And, as my last post on this subject (as you have FAR too much time on your hands - or are getting paid to spend the time -

The following are my personal options and rights (until you have replaced all heir-loomed seeds:
1 - I will continue to strive for GMO free food
2- I will continue to discuss GMO free options with my patients if they wish to
3- I will continue to look at any paper written, GMO or pharmaceutical or otherwise, with a cautious eye as most have a profiting financier

And, best of all: I will continue to notice that my patients who live healthy and eat healthy foods are living longer and are more vibrant, and I myself just having celebrated my 57th yesterday, feel healthier than average.

You all have the final word as I will not re-visit this thread.

 

[Suzierd]

One last good old college try, don't get your feathers too ruffled.

GMO 101: Genetically modified corn, soy, sugar from sugar beet, canola, cotton & alfalfa have genes from unrelated species forced into their DNA to make them able to tolerate being drowned in Monsanto's herbicide, Roundup, and not die. The weeds are supposed to die but we now have Roundup resistant super weeds, which causes farmers to spray ever increasing amounts of Roundup on your GMO food. Roundup was patented as an antibiotic in 2010 by Monsanto and was recently found to be the most toxic of 9 pesticides tested. A recent study found that chronically ill humans had higher levels of glyphosate in their urine.

READ: http://www.forbes.com/sites/bethhoffman/2013/07/02/gmo-crops-mean-more-herbicide-not-less/

READ: http://omicsonline.org/open-access/...s-in-animals-and-humans-2161-0525.1000210.pdf

READ: http://www.naturescountrystore.com/roundup/

READ MORE: http://gmwatch.eu/index.php/news/ar...and-roundup-most-toxic-of-9-pesticides-tested

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Organic food is not more nutritious than conventionally grown food. It's just the same.

Watch this:

Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t - Organic food

I get all my nutrition knowledge from Penn & Teller.

I actually listened to most of it. There were so many flaws in the information that it was a total waste of my time.

 

[rookie39]

I did not know that the Huffington Post was in possession of Danny DeVito's, Michael Pollan's, Alice Waters', or Jullian Michaels' PhD dissertations on the dangers of GMOs!

I wish to remind everyone that you may just as well take the advise of Cornel Sanders, Betty Crocker, Ronald McDonald, and Elsie the Cow for all that the four celebrities mentioned above know about science.  Am I the only one here to miss this attempt at misdirecting the narrative?

I really don't care either way if you choose to keep your blinders on.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsanto-controls-both-the-white-house-and-the-us-congress/5336422
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the american public believes is false" William Casey CIA Director (1981) Go stick your head in the sand chickengeorgeto your spreading garbage.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

I asked you for scientific proof for your beliefs and all you have produce so far are the same feeble opinions and ad hominem attacks. If you can't find or produce any scientific proof to stabilize or bolster your position, be a man about it rookie39 and just tell the people on this forum that there is no scientific proof to backup anything that you say, especially as it relates to genetic modification.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsanto-controls-both-the-white-house-and-the-us-congress/5336422

And I suppose that next you'll claim that the Hindenburg Disaster was a plot to ruin the Hydrogen gas industry and help Exon monopolize the lighter than air transportation sector.

 

[rookie39]

I asked you for scientific proof for your beliefs and all you have produce so far are the same feeble opinions and ad hominem attacks.  If you can't find or produce any scientific proof to stabilize or bolster your position, be a man about it rookie39 and just tell the people on this forum that there is no scientific proof to backup anything that you say, especially as it relates to genetic modification.

I have given you enough proof its up to you to look further into gmo's instead regurgitating what these bought and paid for and was told to toe the line scientists. Keep believeing in a system that is corrupt one day you'll wake up and realize you won't even be able to raise chickens let alone eat something that's not gmo. And yes you would be silly to think everything that is labeled organic is truly full organic especially the bigger corporations products. You do realize that in the 1980's there where 30 plus news corporations today 5 corporations control 98% of our news today that includes the radio stations and newspaper. So bring it on keep trying to attack my character. You sir automatically except what ever is given you. I suppose you also believe in global warming which if they get there way we will be taxed for the air we breath. You would probally go along with it inslave yourself to benefit the few. Go stick your head back in the sand. Ignorance is bliss

 

[chickengeorgeto]

I have given you enough proof its up to you to look further into gmo's instead regurgitating what these bought and paid for and was told to toe the line scientists....

Is this how your scientific marvels toe the lines of science?

First off you posted a link from Scientific America calling into doubt the benefits of ORGANIC food and I don't think that was your intent. But you struck GMO gold when you posted the link from Scientific America that you obviously had never read about a French "researcher" gaining almost Universal Condemnation from the scientific community for either sloppy, or more likely for fraudulent research on GMOs, cancer, rats and any link real or imagined to cancer in humans.

I don't think that you intended to lie or to even stretch the truth, I just think that you got so brain washed by the culture of denying the truth and lying about the truth that you can't imagine that you are wrong or that anyone else can possibly be right.

I here buy reproduced your link for your and for all the other good people on this forum to open, to read, to study, and finally to decide whether you proved your case or whether you proved my case.


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/study-linking-genetically-modified-corn-to-cancer/

 

[ladyearth]

Right on down.... with soy and GMO crap... We are what we eat.........
I would bet that soy is used to depopulate and dumb down the general population, aspertame, also high fructose corn syrup, cottonsed oil, defintely Canola(which is rape seed) who would buy Rape seeds? that is why the name "canola" is used,,, cordless phones, cell phones,probably electricity in general

it all about the money
I listen to nothing but radio no tv(boob tube).. I LISTEN TO HEALTH RADIO SHOWS when I listen to anything ....ALL DAY LONG...
esp RBN, GCN..... I take everthing with a grain of salt.. Try listening to Katherine Albrecht, Joyce Riley< dr Betty Martini,Craig Roberts, DR Lyn Parker
and really think about the book "1984" and the book "seeds of deception"
If that doent open your eyes.. then you are part of the problem, like burying your head in the sand....
I bought 2 bags of Oranic so far,,,,, first one smells like ats second supp to be "crumbles" but looks like a bunch of "flour, too with lots of fine particles....
So I mostly feed mine seperate grains......mixed. Like none Gmo corn(I grind), BOSS, millet,buckwheat, flax,milo, wheat
Plus put those electrolytl tablets in their water... plus occ ACV in plain water....

 

[CrazyTalk]

The funniest part about the whole GMO argument is that mutagenicly bred foods are organic.


IE, I can expose a seed to a whole cocktail of mutagenic chemicals and radiation to cause it to mutate uncontrollably, and sell any offspring produced from this method AS ORGANIC, but if I splice a gene in under controlled lab conditions, everyone has a tizzy.


I've literally never met anyone who has taken a college level genetics class, and has a problem with GMO foods. Shouldn't that tell you something?