Question on GMO feed

[pbjls]

Do you know who owns Monsanto ?
I have to wonder what fuels your passion against a company that you probably know little about.

Why would you asume that I do not know anything about monsanto.

what I am passionate about is found just before the part you quoted. I will repeat it for you again here...

I just want to raise my animals and purchase clean local veggies that are grown with out the aid of a science that I do not trust run by a company that I do not trust.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Quote: What you're not understanding is Roundup is LESS toxic than the herbicides used on NON Roundup Ready crops.
They can't use them ON the crops, but they are used BEFORE the crops are planted.
They also require additional tillage to control weeds, which takes more diesel fuel

The study went from 1999 to the present, and there are far more ACRES planted with those crops now, which accounts for most of the increase.

 

[fowlsessed]

I too would wonder what fires the motivation to support GMO's? Do you know what happened when studies were to be conducted on GMO's? The person behind it was 'put out'...that's the reason there isn't more substantial, scientific evidence against the stuff. BUT, I've got all I need. When everything, at least suggests, that it is harmful, and nothing suggests the contrary, when money is the over-arching purpose behind it, I know I want out. Circumstances, scientific or not, have proven that GM foods are best not eaten. And there are indeed a few known health problems associated with the stuff, even with the lack of extensive scientific research being conducted. As for the insecticides or pesticides, what does it matter if they are sprayed on and, many times with many kinds, absorbed into the plant, or put into the seed itself...it's there either way, and it's poison all the same. In the end, none of it is what I want to be eating. And I don't feel like supporting something seemingly corrupt that's making 'some guy' rich and not helping me or my family. If you do, fine, if you are afraid of the increased production costs of not using GMO's than fine, but don't try to make the devil come across as not being the bad guy. If you do/don't want to use them depend solely on that-what you want, not on weather or not we should/n't- I at least know it isn't best. Now what do I WANT to do?.........

 

[Spifflove]

I eat apricot seeds all the time (it's a cancer killer and keeps my cancer at bay) and I'm not dead. The kind of cyanide in these seeds does not kill humans -- nothing has ever proved that it kills humans. As for chickens, it is a naturally occurring substance and animals eat in nature what they need when they can find it. As for cyanide in apricot pits, you can research worldwithoutcancer.org. I know that doesn't deal with chickens, but your comment about putting it on children's plates necessitated this comment.

Not meaning to offend anyone -- just wanted to let you know my personal experience has been.

You seem alittle confused and disorientated. Not surprising considering the sleet storm you have been subjected to. I invite you to go back and reread the post you are refering to.

 

[Spifflove]

While there may be an "increase" of herbicides NOW used in RR crops, over what WAS used earlier in RR crops, it's still FAR LESS than what is STILL used in conventional crops for weed control.

There are always "concerns"
That doesn't mean it's some huge problem, and for now BT works quite well, with NO PROVEN harmful effects

The WSU study is somewhat misleading, in that it doesn't make allowances for the number of ACRES planted each year, but only gives that amount of herbicides used.
It also doesn't explain the while Roundup use may have increased, the use of STRONGER, more dangerous herbicides has greatly decreased

http://news.cahnrs.wsu.edu/2012/10/...rmance-of-major-ge-crops-new-wsu-study-shows/

I just read the article and it states that not only is more roundup being used, but alternate, presumably more toxic herbicides are also being resorted to. So the dose is going up, and therefore the toxicity. Most studies only study the glycophosphate portion of roundup, not the whole dangerous cocktail with toxicity potentiating "inert" ingredients. And everything is based on dose. More dose equals more harm. Just like its less dangerous to breath the air in Seattle than it is in LA.

Of course the inevitable conclusion is that GMO crops will eventually fail. But.. hey look at all the short term profit to be made!

Edit and pbjls pointed out they may be intentionally breeding superbugs and weeds so that they can charge in on a white horse...for a nice profit.

 

[Spifflove]

@pbjls +1 and thank you for saving me the trouble!

 

[TennesseeChicken]

Monsanto is laughing all the way to the bank. Regardless whether you eat organic food, non GMO food or GMO foods it is all produced with the help of pesticides and other technologies sold by companies like Monsanto.

40% of organic food sold in America is produced in China where the living standards are much lower and the work ethic is very much higher. Do you honestly think that Chinese organic farmers sit in the middle of their fields all day listing for the small grawing sounds made by insect pests feeding on their crops and then jump up like a Choi Lin monk and beat the guilty worm or beetle to death with a hoe handle? I think that they spray a long list of approved (or even non approved) insecticides on their organic crops or crop land and I doubt that DE or hot pepper is one of them.

I grow my own veggies.

 

[TennesseeChicken]

They've had decades to do it, and yet there is still no proof.
Why not just accept reality?

Studies by Monsanto and their ilk? Not buying it.

 

[Spifflove]

Studies by Monsanto and their ilk? Not buying it.

+1. And I would like to add that the recently signed Monsanto Protection Act speaks greater volumes about the toxicity and danger of their products than any study would. They know their product is unsafe and the truth of the effects will become unsuppressible. If this were not true then why would have Monsanto felt the need for the legislation?

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Quote:
It STILL doesn't take into account MORE ACERAGE is being planted.