questions on making a brooder inside the coop

I'll start with a couple of photos of my 3' x 6' x 2' high brooder built in the coop. It is under the roost and the top is my droppings board, but it's elevated so not exactly the same as yours. Mine has a wire floor so the poop falls through, real easy to clean and it stays dry. Good luck with yours, but as you can see from other posts you can make that work. I use heat lamps but others use heating pads. Those work great too.

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The biggest problem I have in brooding outside is the temperature swings. I've had it go from below freezing to the 70's Fahrenheit in little more than overnight. Your brooder needs to provide a warm enough spot in the coldest temperatures and a cool enough spot in the warmest temperatures. I do that with room and ventilation. One end stays toasty in the coldest temperatures while the far end may have ice in it on those cold mornings. In the heat waves they stay on the far end. If you haven't read it here is @Blooie 's thread on how she does it with a heating pad.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...d-in-the-brooder-picture-heavy-update.956958/

In winter I wrap mine in plastic to help keep heat in, really wrap it if it is cold. The second shot is later spring where it doesn't get that cold but I block mine underneath to keep the chicks from getting a breeze from underneath. In summer it's more wide open.

I put my chicks in mine straight from the incubator or post office. Some people like to keep them in the house the first few days. I think the first two or three days are most critical. They spend a lot of that time in the heated area. In my 3' x 6' brooder I find them very good at going to where they are comfortable. I've never had to confine them to a spot near the heat. In winter I typically keep the heat on until they are 5 weeks old, in summer the heat goes off earlier or I switch to a lower wattage bulb.

In any case I open the brooder door when they are 5 weeks old and walk away. Of course I pay attention but it really is that easy. I have an 8' x 12' main coop, a couple of shelters I can use to sleep some if it gets crowded, and over 3,000 square feet available outside for them. The room in the coop and outside really helps, I don't know how you are set up for room when integrating. I think having enough room is critical in it being this easy. I've never used that safe haven method where the chicks can get away from the adults but if room is tight those can be really helpful. There are ways to do things.

In warmer weather, I've had a couple of broody hens wean their chicks at 3 weeks. Leave them totally on their own to make their own way with the flock. She's spent three weeks teaching the other adults to leave her chicks alone. With the room I have they manage. My five weeks may be a bit overkill but it's not that much extra hassle so I'm OK being extra safe.

I don't have a run associated with this brooder. If I'd thought of it I could have set it up where I could. I'd consider that a good thing as it gives you more flexibility in managing them.

With mine elevated with a wire floor it's a good broody buster. I've used it to isolate chickens that need isolating. I don't isolate my broody hens whether incubating or raising chicks but yours could be used for that. If I were to do something like that I'd put cardboard or plywood on the wire to get a solid floor. In winter I have a piece of plywood I put under the heat to retain heat. And the water goes in the warmed area so it doesn't freeze.

The size is a good question. Mine is too big to reach them so I use a net to catch them. How many chicks and how old will they be before you let them out? My 3x6 can hold about 30 chicks until they are 5 weeks old, then it gets pretty crowded. Getting on your knees to get in there could be a pain. I'd suggest making it bigger than you think you need and maybe think of a way to wall off one end that you can easily take down if you think you need it.

Good luck with it, let us know how it goes.
 
I'll start with a couple of photos of my 3' x 6' x 2' high brooder built in the coop. It is under the roost and the top is my droppings board, but it's elevated so not exactly the same as yours. Mine has a wire floor so the poop falls through, real easy to clean and it stays dry. Good luck with yours, but as you can see from other posts you can make that work. I use heat lamps but others use heating pads. Those work great too.

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The biggest problem I have in brooding outside is the temperature swings. I've had it go from below freezing to the 70's Fahrenheit in little more than overnight. Your brooder needs to provide a warm enough spot in the coldest temperatures and a cool enough spot in the warmest temperatures. I do that with room and ventilation. One end stays toasty in the coldest temperatures while the far end may have ice in it on those cold mornings. In the heat waves they stay on the far end. If you haven't read it here is @Blooie 's thread on how she does it with a heating pad.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...d-in-the-brooder-picture-heavy-update.956958/

In winter I wrap mine in plastic to help keep heat in, really wrap it if it is cold. The second shot is later spring where it doesn't get that cold but I block mine underneath to keep the chicks from getting a breeze from underneath. In summer it's more wide open.

I put my chicks in mine straight from the incubator or post office. Some people like to keep them in the house the first few days. I think the first two or three days are most critical. They spend a lot of that time in the heated area. In my 3' x 6' brooder I find them very good at going to where they are comfortable. I've never had to confine them to a spot near the heat. In winter I typically keep the heat on until they are 5 weeks old, in summer the heat goes off earlier or I switch to a lower wattage bulb.

In any case I open the brooder door when they are 5 weeks old and walk away. Of course I pay attention but it really is that easy. I have an 8' x 12' main coop, a couple of shelters I can use to sleep some if it gets crowded, and over 3,000 square feet available outside for them. The room in the coop and outside really helps, I don't know how you are set up for room when integrating. I think having enough room is critical in it being this easy. I've never used that safe haven method where the chicks can get away from the adults but if room is tight those can be really helpful. There are ways to do things.

In warmer weather, I've had a couple of broody hens wean their chicks at 3 weeks. Leave them totally on their own to make their own way with the flock. She's spent three weeks teaching the other adults to leave her chicks alone. With the room I have they manage. My five weeks may be a bit overkill but it's not that much extra hassle so I'm OK being extra safe.

I don't have a run associated with this brooder. If I'd thought of it I could have set it up where I could. I'd consider that a good thing as it gives you more flexibility in managing them.

With mine elevated with a wire floor it's a good broody buster. I've used it to isolate chickens that need isolating. I don't isolate my broody hens whether incubating or raising chicks but yours could be used for that. If I were to do something like that I'd put cardboard or plywood on the wire to get a solid floor. In winter I have a piece of plywood I put under the heat to retain heat. And the water goes in the warmed area so it doesn't freeze.

The size is a good question. Mine is too big to reach them so I use a net to catch them. How many chicks and how old will they be before you let them out? My 3x6 can hold about 30 chicks until they are 5 weeks old, then it gets pretty crowded. Getting on your knees to get in there could be a pain. I'd suggest making it bigger than you think you need and maybe think of a way to wall off one end that you can easily take down if you think you need it.

Good luck with it, let us know how it goes.
Thank you for all the information! I am thinking of getting 7-8 day old chicks from the feed store near me. And hoping one of my chickens go broody so that I can hatch some Cochins from my blue pair. :) I will re-home most of those but hoping to get a splash from them to keep.

My coop is 8x8 with nest boxes outside of that and my run is 26x8. If I am outside with them I let them free range but only while i am out there and for a short period of time. I am thinking of maybe expanding the run a bit this year, but we will see. Last year I got my coop and run so this year my husband gets a shed but hoping we have time and extra $ to expand the run for them. LOL

I found a dog exercise pen that is open on the top and 2' high that I think I can use to block off the underneath instead of having to build something and it has a door. I should be able to adjust the size of it as well so that will help as they grow. so thinking I will get that and figure out a way to fasten it to the poop board to hold it in place but that it can be removed.

my chickens that I have this year I got the beginning of April and they were brooded inside but off the heat around 4-5 weeks and outside around 6 weeks maybe 5 weeks and were fine. So think the temps should be ok with a MHP and not having a really cold area. Think I am most nervous with the first couple of days when they are really little and new.....
 
Think I am most nervous with the first couple of days when they are really little and new.....
If it's very cold or temperature swings are unpredictable, or if it just makes you feel safer about it, keep them in the house for the first week, then move them out to the in-coop brooding area.

Me, I put them in the brooder out in the run from the start, but I've also done this enough in my set up to know what temperatures are ok and how to account for rain, winds, etc.
 
If it's very cold or temperature swings are unpredictable, or if it just makes you feel safer about it, keep them in the house for the first week, then move them out to the in-coop brooding area.

Me, I put them in the brooder out in the run from the start, but I've also done this enough in my set up to know what temperatures are ok and how to account for rain, winds, etc.
when I get them in April we should have highs 50-65 and lows in the 30's and maybe 40's. But our weather here is odd. LOL Today we are around 60 and Tue will be 24 for a high and last week we had 20's for highs, then later in the week it is going to be high 40's to 50's again. April doesn't have as many swings but it can have some big swings. My coop is well ventilated but also well built that it doesn't have drafts. the only thing that has blown in was the snow when we had a blizzard other than that we have had rain, snow etc. and it didn't blow in the coop at all and the will be under the poop board so protected against that if it does happen so I think they will be ok. The only way wind may blow in is from the chicken door that is across from the roosts but I can put them further over at first so that doesn't blow right in at them either.
 
Our second group of chicks were raised in a brooder in the covered run. We did an article. Those chicks integrated very well with the older girls. We left the brooder in the coop with the HW cloth removed. In the next few weeks we will return it to brooder status. We will be getting chicks in a few weeks.

Brooder in covered run - Updated 7/11 Six weeks
 
With that number of chicks I think that heating pad cave will work great. I hear what the others are saying about the first few days, I think those are important, but I also think you'll be OK with that set-up. I'd expect them to spend a lot of time in the heat the first couple of days, then they'll come out to play.

That run sounds kind of small but you coop is a nice size. Your overall space system is not just the coop or just the run in isolation, but the total and when they are all available. When you integrate I'd expect the chicks to be inside when the adults are outside and outside when the adults are inside. Having clutter can help. That's where they have things to hide behind, under, or over. Just something to break the line of sight. And have widely separated food and water stations.

I think you are in a pretty good spot. Let us know how it goes. And keep asking questions.
 
With that number of chicks I think that heating pad cave will work great. I hear what the others are saying about the first few days, I think those are important, but I also think you'll be OK with that set-up. I'd expect them to spend a lot of time in the heat the first couple of days, then they'll come out to play.

That run sounds kind of small but you coop is a nice size. Your overall space system is not just the coop or just the run in isolation, but the total and when they are all available. When you integrate I'd expect the chicks to be inside when the adults are outside and outside when the adults are inside. Having clutter can help. That's where they have things to hide behind, under, or over. Just something to break the line of sight. And have widely separated food and water stations.

I think you are in a pretty good spot. Let us know how it goes. And keep asking questions.
The run is 208 sq ft. There are a few things in there now. A tree trunk, a stump, a chair that babies can run under, it is a beach chair upside down. So far unless laying the big ones aren't in the coop besides to sleep. They were in the day of the blizzard and did well. It was their choice to stay in that day. But in 9 mo that is the only day they have stayed in.
 
another question on brooding inside the coop. Where I want to make the brooder under the poop boards not a ton of light gets under there during the day. I have 4 windows in my coop (2 on either side of the roost/poop boards and 2 a few feet away, also the peaks are open (with HWC covering them) as well as the gables for vents. But where it is under a 2' wide poop board it is quite shadowed. Should I find some type of low light night light or something to have on a timer during the day and then go off at night so the chicks have plenty of light during the day? I use a MHP and not a heat lamp so no source of light from their heat....

Any recommendations on a light that would work if I should use one? Since it will only be a couple of feet above the shavings (or I may put horse stall pellets under their since that is what I used last year in my brooder and they worked great and food didn't get filled with them) I don't want anything that gets hot or is too bright.
 
Any recommendations on a light that would work if I should use one? Since it will only be a couple of feet above the shavings (or I may put horse stall pellets under their since that is what I used last year in my brooder and they worked great and food didn't get filled with them) I don't want anything that gets hot or is too bright.
Not sure what I'd recommend but yes I'd consider adding light during daytime if it's pretty well shaded under there. Maybe a low wattage LED or something, so it doesn't add any extra heat?
 

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