Quitter?

[Loralye]

Hi,
I've watched videos and researched a lot, and I'm 90% sure this ones a quitter....BUT I wanted to check in with someone experienced as this is my first time incubating. I've attached two photos, both sides of the egg in question.

I'm currently incubating 4 bantams, I could see the other three moving around, very clearly, while this one isn't moving at all from what I can see.

Do I leave it or pull it now? I hope it isn't something I did or didn't do. I really hope the others don't quit!

 

[Loralye]

Actually now that I'm looking online again I'm not so sure that it quit... the ring seems awfully obvious though, along with no visible movement but I still see some veins... forgot to check aircell, was too focused on the ring.
Opinion? Should I leave it until day 14 to be safe? I've read that it shouldn't explode in the incubator, that I would smell it first...

 

[MGG]

Actually now that I'm looking online again I'm not so sure that it quit... the ring seems awfully obvious though, along with no visible movement but I still see some veins... forgot to check aircell, was too focused on the ring.
Opinion? Should I leave it until day 14 to be safe? I've read that it shouldn't explode in the incubator, that I would smell it first...

It looks like a blood ring to me, but I had an egg with a very visible blood ring that I left in just in case. To my surprise, it was the first to hatch! I'm not saying you'll have the same outcome, it's pretty rare, but I would leave it in for sure. Eggs don't explode often, they will start to lose and smell a lot first. I would candle that egg more often so you'll catch it early if it goes bad. I'm not sure what day you're on, but I'd check that one every other day until lockdown just to err on the side of caution. It won't hurt anything. Do you wash your hands before candling? Usually blood rings are caused by bacteria or too high of temps.

 

[Loralye]

It looks like a blood ring to me, but I had an egg with a very visible blood ring that I left in just in case. To my surprise, it was the first to hatch! I'm not saying you'll have the same outcome, it's pretty rare, but I would leave it in for sure. Eggs don't explode often, they will start to lose and smell a lot first. I would candle that egg more often so you'll catch it early if it goes bad. I'm not sure what day you're on, but I'd check that one every other day until lockdown just to err on the side of caution. It won't hurt anything. Do you wash your hands before candling? Usually blood rings are caused by bacteria or too high of temps.

Oh, sorry, it's day 7. I wash and dry my hands thoroughly every time. I hand rotate 3 times a day, and other than that only handled them once before today to candle on Day 4, my son and I were eager to know if they were developing on Easter.

Thanks! That's exactly what I'm worried about....the "what if". Okay, I'll check every other day moving forward.

And if it is really dead the line should thicken right? Other pictures I've seen look more defined and like there's more of a separating of things going on inside, mine still has veins and such spreading out from what I saw. If the black blob gets bigger and veins appear in tact(ish) I'll just assume it's still developing with fingers crossed.

There are so many mixed things o the internet about exploding eggs, I'd hate to risk the other babies. Thanks for easing my mind a bit

 

[Loralye]

day 4 vs day 7 photos... the embryo got darker, bigger?...veins, but isn't moving

 

[Punkybrewster]

I would wait until day 10 or day 14 before tossing it. If by day 14 it hasnt darkened up inside the egg then you will know for sure. It may be just developing slower.

 

[MGG]

Do you have a calibrated thermometer in there? It might still be alive. Update in a week or so with some more pics and it should be more obvious by then.

 

[Loralye]

Do you have a calibrated thermometer in there? It might still be alive. Update in a week or so with some more pics and it should be more obvious by then.

Yeah, it's an older Brinsea Mini Advance, it seems to be accurate. I went through 3 meat thermometers and a couple others trying to calibrate my incubator a couple of weeks ago. Even with a calibrated thermometer I would get an accurate read doing the boiling water test, but not the ice water test, or vis versa. Eventually I gave up. Took the most accurate one and stuck it in the incubator and went from there. I also monitor the humidity and it's been between 40-50, following Brinsea manual instructions.

I'll continue to check on the little eggie and hope for the best. I'll update next week or if something noteworthy happens.

 

[MGG]

Sounds good. Hoping for a great update!

 

[JaeG]

Be sure to rearrange the eggs inside the incubator so they aren't sitting in the same spot throughout incubation. This evens out any colder and warmer spots in the incubator that can cause some to hatch early and some to hatch late.