Rant about Euthanasia

[Tortoise]

I agree, humans and animals are not on the same level. Animals are better! Humans are the worst species there is. We are mean, greedy, selfish, etc, etc. I could go on and on but you get it.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I agree, humans and animals are not on the same level. Animals are better! Humans are the worst species there is. We are mean, greedy, selfish, etc, etc. I could go on and on but you get it.

So are most animals... we just don't realize how brutal nature really is where the parents eat their offspring... puhlease!

And the males kill the offspring so they can mate with mamma bear sooner.

I wish more people had a grip on reality... but ignorance is bliss!

I could go on and on... like it or not most the human race does what comes natural... SOME don't.

ETA: I'm so thankful for the people I continue to meet and PROVE this world isn't as sad as it is made out to be... Focus on what you choose to.

 

[BlackHackle]

I wish more people had a grip on reality... but ignorance is bliss!

The first wise phrase I've heard this week. Thanks

 

[annageckos]

I understand that there comes a point when the only kind thing to do is put the animal down. This, like I stated in my post, is when they have no will to live any longer.

I haven't read everything yet but wanted to reply to this part. Sometimes even when they have a will to live the right thing to do is end the suffering. To make it clear, my animals are my family. They are everything to me and very important. I have emptied my bank and even taken out credit to get treatment. I will do all in my power to help, but sometimes euthanasia is the right thing to do. I had to put down my dog Vegas(not the one in my avatar). He had bone cancer. He had the will to live but was in pain and it was getting worse. He had a hard time walking and the cancer was growing. We had done all we could but it is an aggressive cancer. He would eat and drink, loved his treats and coffee. We helped him up to go out. But he was in a lot of pain with pain meds. The night before he was put down he had a seizure. It was time, no matter that he still had the will to live. A few months ago I had to put down my 19 y/o cat. Cancer again, he was eating and fairly active. Still loving but the cancer wasn't able to be removed. So we could only do supportive care. I'm sorry I can't really get more into it, still too painful for me. But that was the hardest thing I've had to do. But in all this rambling I guess my point is that will to live isn't everything. Quality of live matter so much. Animals will keep fighting, even when the pain is unbearable. We need to do what is best for them, and sometimes that is what is hardest for us. I do agree that a lot of people euthanize because they don't want to deal with an aging pet or medical condition that is treatable or that can be managed and that makes me so angry. Some will abandon an old pet, those people should never have pets. Some people just suck. But many people care too and make those hard, heartbreaking choices.

I wanted to add something about pain. I am in pain, have been for most of my life starting fairly young. What many people don't understand is that sometimes meds don't help or don't help much. There are days when my pain meds do next to nothing for me. So it isn't always as simple as 'in pain, take pain med, all better'. But you should still try, just remember that sometimes meds don't make the quality of life better. And animals can hide that pain so well. It isn't always easy to see the suffering. But of course you should still try. I will add that when I was younger and my pain was untreated (many drs don't believe that a young person can be in pain...) there were many days I just wanted to die, my life was hell.

 

[Tortoise]

So are most animals... we just don't realize how brutal nature really is where the parents eat their offspring... puhlease!

And the males kill the offspring so they can mate with mamma bear sooner.

I wish more people had a grip on reality... but ignorance is bliss!

I could go on and on... like it or not most the human race does what comes natural... SOME don't.

ETA: I'm so thankful for the people I continue to meet and PROVE this world isn't as sad as it is made out to be... Focus on what you choose to.

Except eating the offspring, humans do too! Way more often then the rare animal.
Yep, ignorance is bliss!

 

[wyoDreamer]

I'm glad to hear that you took the dogs to the vet and Ginger now has the meds that she needs to be happy and active.

Here is my story: I had an old lab that I could tell was not feeling well. When Pooka stopped eating, something was WRONG! I had to work but arranged to drop her off at the vet clinic so they could check her out, run tests and observe her for the day. I stipulated that before any treatment above $300, I needed to be notified to make the decision to treat or not. The lady behind the counter gave me a lot of grief about that limitation because "isn't she your baby and don't you want to do ANYTHING you possibly can to keep her alive?". No, she is my DOG and I love her very much, but I am not going to give you a blank check to do whatever you want. We were willing to do reasonable care, but for a 16 year old dog who has hip problems and is slowly losing her sight and her hearing, we were willing to do only so much to extend her life. Good news was that Pooka had pancreatitis, recovered in two weeks with treatment and lived a spoiled life until she died 2 years later while begging for table scraps while I was making supper - her ultimate favorite activity. She was laying there begging as usual, I heard a strange noise and she was sprawled out on her side having a massive seizure and she was gone. I hope I get to die as she did - happy and content with my life, then gone.

 

[Tortoise]

Oh, how great it would be to be young and naive again.

I agree, it would be great.

 

[Dona Worry]

Except eating the offspring, humans do too! Way more often then the rare animal.
Yep, ignorance is bliss!

Actually, it's extreme common in the animal world, and I only know of a handful of cases in humans, although I'll admit people eating their children is not a topic I have studied.

 

[webbysmeme]

I'm going through this right now with one of mine. She's on Carprofen, glucosamine, and Proin twice a day. She can't chase after the quad, or jump into the truck, but she does like to follow us around.

I found this and thought some people might find it helpful:
https://vet.osu.edu/vmc/sites/defau...ionAnimals/HonoringtheBond/HowDoIKnowWhen.pdf
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Thank you for posting this chart. It may be very helpful to a lot of people.I know it will be helpful to me.

To the Op, I have been in your exact situation, it is hard to see your babies go. I had to put down the best dog and friend that I've ever known. She was a 13 year old Rott. I loved that big baby so much. She had arthritis in her hip and leg joints. We gave her pain Meds and others to help her cope. When she could no longer get up to go potty, I tied a sheet around her to lift her up and help her go outside. I would hold her up so she could do her business and then help her back into the house to her bed. I put it off longer than I should have. I just couldn't let go. I was forced to make the heartbreaker decision when I hurt my back lifting her. I now know that I should have let her go sooner. It took a long time to get use to the empty house and not having her there to care for. I still miss her. But now I think the way she was always such a proud dog. It probly humiliated her for me to have to help her that way.

By reading your post, I think that you are a responsible human being and you will do whatever is best for both of your babies. I will be thinking of you in your painful situation. We've all been there. Some people are just insensitive to others feelings. You do what is best when you feel it is time.
Kim

 

[Tortoise]

Actually, it's extreme common in the animal world, and I only know of a handful of cases in humans, although I'll admit people eating their children is not a topic I have studied.

Seriously!