Rant-- Accountability -- edited for meaning

[Prettiest Frog]

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Actually, most of us are quite aware they are different weapons. That's why I mentioned both in my posts.

Reread what the 2nd amendment of OUR Constitution states. Read the Constitution. States have the right to govern themselves however they see fit ... as long as the Federal government doesn't have a law regarding that specific matter.

I have.

It gives us the right to bear arms.

We have that right.

We would have that right even if we were only limited to being able to own .17 remingtons.

The fact is that there is NO justification for these gun laws, these ridiculous bans, or the mentality that GUNS are bad.

I've listed several justifications. Refusing to acknowledge these justifications lends considerable weight to the arguments for gun laws, for it demonstrates a lack of responsibility with guns to treat them with a cavalier attitude.

Frankly, if you don't acknowledge that guns ARE dangerous, you are not responsible enough to be allowed to own one. Period.



If you cannot be ACCOUNTABLE for where the bullet ends up, which you can't with an automatic or high-caliber weapon, you shouldn't own a gun. Accountability is one of those two-edged swords.​

 

[Prettiest Frog]

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I agree. It will protect you, stop an attacker dead in his or her tracks, and won't accidentally kill someone 100 yards away behind a wall.

 

[chicks4kids]

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Rough Ryder BB gun.....

I've noticed interesting things about the maturity level of folks who want to be allowed to own high-caliber and automatic weapons. Really doesn't help their case.

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Frankly, I don't think anyone needs to own anything bigger than a 45, and in areas with a high concentration of people, I'd prefer it limited to a 22 or something with a good chance of being stopped by the average wall. I wouldn't ban ownership of anything bigger, cause people do leave cities to go shooting, but if you think you will need to fire the gun inside the city, I'd prefer you be using a lighter round. That's just being responsible and acknowledging the simple fact that you could miss, especially when shooting under stress.

Why would you want to own a weapon that can penetrate a house? I mean, yeah, cool, fancy, aren't you special, but that the hell happens if you MISS? Part of gun safety is knowing where your bullet is going to come to rest, and on a high caliber weapon that can GO THROUGH the target and quite possibly the wall behind it, that safety goes away.

But some people it seems won't be happy unless they have enough firepower to kill a bear without leaving enough remains for a DNA analysis to determine species.

Really?? If you have a gun like that...you know here the bullet is going.......................

I feel totally confident that if someone breaks into my home, with my 3 children ...that if me, or my husband could not protect or home, that my 11 year old could. My FIL had serious incident where if they were protected, the family would feel differently today............not the case....I believe to each their own, and I feel sorry for anyone who cannot protect their family. As for me and mine....we are safe...no matter what the geographical location.....we are safe...my family is safe.

 

[DuckLady]

Folks, if you want this thread staying open, you need to get civil.

Boyd, when you are ready to pull the plug here, let me know.

 

[Prettiest Frog]

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No. You don't. As I stated already, the problem with a high caliber gun is that the bullet often continues traveling after it has gone through it's initial target, and some of them can continue on quite far, including through multiple walls.

And I'll tell you what.

In 10 seconds, firing my gun at a target 50 yards away, I can cluster all my bullets within 4" of each other easily. If you can do the same with an automatic weapon of similar size, I will withdraw my objections.



I can protect my family. I can do so with confidence and the knowledge that if I fire my weapon, it won't go through the wall of my house, through the wall of my neighbor's house, and kill their 6 year old kid. I can do so with the confidence that I don't need to fire 10+ bullets a second to hit my target, I can do it with one.

Automatic and high caliber weapons are not for defense. Period.

 

[Cindiloohoo]

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Rough Ryder BB gun.....

I've noticed interesting things about the maturity level of folks who want to be allowed to own high-caliber and automatic weapons. Really doesn't help their case.

AWWWW!! COME ON!! That WAS a little funny...from both sides!! Don't be a stick in the mud...it was a joke not an attack. I'm not immature. I have no case, because I am not presenting one. I own what I want, what I can find, and what is legal. I don't feel like I should have to defend that. 33 with a squeaky clean record, and I should not have to defend my choices. Just sayin....

 

[chicks4kids]

HKMP5 3 round burst

 

[Prettiest Frog]

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I've noticed interesting things about the maturity level of folks who want to be allowed to own high-caliber and automatic weapons. Really doesn't help their case.

AWWWW!! COME ON!! That WAS a little funny...from both sides!! Don't be a stick in the mud...it was a joke not an attack. I'm not immature.

I found it insulting, especially as similar has been said to me with the intent to insult. You and Boyd both have assumed I'm ignorant of the 'higher end' weaponry, and the truth of the matter is I've probably more experience with them than either of you. I've been all that I could be fairly recently.

I don't feel like I should have to defend that. 33 with a squeaky clean record, and I should not have to defend my choices

Is anyone here asking you to defend that .33?​

 

[chicks4kids]

I consider my husband's Barrett 50 cal BMG a high caliber rifle

 

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