Rant-- Accountability -- edited for meaning

[Marlinchaser]

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Oh no not another confession....

 

[saddina]

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I will attack Red, shes just flinging poop(my birds do it all the time, and it doenst hurt), you two are dangerous [URL]http://planetsmilies.net/violent-smiley-1391.gif[/URL] [URL]http://planetsmilies.net/violent-smiley-1487.gif[/URL]

I love that smiley.

 

[redhen]

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Oh no not another confession....

not THAT kind of street walking..

Ahh..youre good though...
Marlin +1

redhen 0

 

[Marlinchaser]

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I will attack Red, shes just flinging poop(my birds do it all the time, and it doenst hurt), you two are dangerous [URL]http://planetsmilies.net/violent-smiley-1391.gif[/URL] [URL]http://planetsmilies.net/violent-smiley-1487.gif[/URL]

I love that smiley.

You can have it, just copy and paste thats what I do.

 

[saddina]

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I love that smiley.

You can have it, just copy and paste thats what I do.

Yep.

 

[Hillsvale]

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you know, that probably sums it up better than anything I've ever read or heard!

I remember getting electrocuted by the wall outlet when I was 5 and thinking "mental note: don't do that again!"

My mom always told me "Prepare the child for the path, not the path for the child". Apparently, it is a long forgotten quote for many.

Exactly....

god are the days when children got a grade they deserved, got picked for a team because they deserved to be there or were rewarded for something they did that was good.... I got exactly what I earned and deserved as did most anyone my age(ish) (umm 45)... what is wrong with saying NO??

Boyd.. I didn't read the whole thread but yes I agree, blame the people/person not the gun or weapon of choice, I am very tired or people blaming everyone else for something that hapens to them.... time for everyone to put on their big girl (boy) panties and suck it up!

Now my Simon has given me a slight evil eye by starting the movie without me... lol

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Big boy Panties?

 

[country freedom]

WE were raised AROUND guns! LOADED guns! WE were TOLD, SHOWN by being taken hunting at an early age, what guns were meant for! Bringing home, food for the entire family, and, if needed, protecting the family!

WE were also taught HOW to handle, use, clean, and keep guns!

My Dad kept a loaded shotgun behind every exterior door (4), behind his bedroom doors (3), and both of my older brothers, each had thier own shotguns, kept loaded, also, behind their bedroom doors.
My Dad also kept a loaded pistol in his top drawer of his tall drawers in his bedroom.

We lived in the country - and I felt very safe!

Where I live now, without a gun, really, ask me IF I feel safe !

I don't own a gun, for the one reason that my children have seen too much as in negative tv (we-growing up-didn't see any, except old westerns), and seen actors die in movies/tv shows, only to re-appear in others.

Growing up, my children have spent time over relatives (inlaws)/friends houses who watch those types of shows, and we (children and I) came from a very abusive life with their Dad.
Also, I have to add this, my Darling Fiance' has a huge collection of horror movies.

 

[LizFM]

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I am a bit confused (not an unusual situation

) about what 'chosing to be afraid' has to do with it. Do you think people who chose to keep a useable, loaded gun in their home or on their person have 'chosen to be afraid?' Cuz, the way I look at it, we have chosen not to be afraid to just go about our business.

I currently live in a metro area that, a couple of years ago, had both a "serial shooter" (turned out to be a pair of guys doing that) and a serial rapist on the loose. That was fun

Plus we're becoming the kidnap-for-profit capital of the US. And even when you live in a relatively safe, nice neighborhood and don't involve yourself with criminals there's no guarantee that the bad guys won't come to your house by mistake.

Is it better out in the country? Not necessarily, the first 10 years we were married we lived and farmed near what I believe sociologists refer to as a "rural ghetto"...same crime and poverty, just a different racial/cultural group and surrounded by fields instead of tenements.

Even "the good old days" weren't that good. In the early 20th century my grandmother grew up as a farm child then farm wife, with a healthy fear of what used to be called "bums". Women, alone with children in isolated farmsteads while the men were in the fields or working for others, back in the days before telephones were common in poor rural areas, were truly isolated and vulnerable. Thanks to a succession of good farm dogs (I am convinced the main purpose of most farm dogs was protection rather than herding) and a shotgun, my grandma protected herself, her children, and her home from everything from enormous rattlesnakes ("as big around as my upper arm" grandma said) to scary guys who thought a farm out of eye- or ear-shot of any other humans would be easy pickings.

Up until the invention of firearms a woman, no matter how strong or independent, could only depend on men for protection, she could not protect herself in the way a woman with a gun can. (there's my feminist argument

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And...for the person whose brother was killed by an intruder. I am truly sorry for your loss, and, while I am not in any way advocating this, I am simply curious...if you really fear you'd kill the SOB if you owned a gun, would he not be just as dead if you ran him down with a car? Does that thought prevent you from driving? If not, then why not? Why would one inanimate object (a gun) turn you into a killer if another (a car) would not? I am not arguing that you should own a gun. No one should own a gun if they do not feel they could be a safe and responsible gun owner. I am merely confused by your stated reason for not having one.

 

[LizFM]

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I am a bit confused (not an unusual situation

) about what 'chosing to be afraid' has to do with it. Do you think people who chose to keep a useable, loaded gun in their home or on their person have 'chosen to be afraid?' Cuz, the way I look at it, we have chosen not to be afraid to just go about our business.

I currently live in a metro area that, a couple of years ago, had both a "serial shooter" (turned out to be a pair of guys doing that) and a serial rapist on the loose. That was fun

Plus we're becoming the kidnap-for-profit capital of the US. And even when you live in a relatively safe, nice neighborhood and don't involve yourself with criminals there's no guarantee that the bad guys won't come to your house by mistake.

Is it better out in the country? Not necessarily, the first 10 years we were married we lived and farmed near what I believe sociologists refer to as a "rural ghetto"...same crime and poverty, just a different racial/cultural group and surrounded by fields instead of tenements.

Even "the good old days" weren't that good. In the early 20th century my grandmother grew up as a farm child then farm wife, with a healthy fear of what used to be called "bums". Women, alone with children in isolated farmsteads while the men were in the fields or working for others, back in the days before telephones were common in poor rural areas, were truly isolated and vulnerable. Thanks to a succession of good farm dogs (I am convinced the main purpose of most farm dogs was protection rather than herding) and a shotgun, my grandma protected herself, her children, and her home from everything from enormous rattlesnakes ("as big around as my upper arm" grandma said) to scary guys who thought a farm out of eye- or ear-shot of any other humans would be easy pickings.

Up until the invention of firearms a woman, no matter how strong or independent, could only depend on men for protection, she could not protect herself in the way a woman with a gun can. (there's my feminist argument

)

And...for the person whose brother was killed by an intruder. I am truly sorry for your loss, and, while I am not in any way advocating this, I am simply curious...if you really fear you'd kill the SOB if you owned a gun, would he not be just as dead if you ran him down with a car? Does that thought prevent you from driving? If not, then why not? Why would one inanimate object (a gun) turn you into a killer if another (a car) would not? I am not arguing that you should own a gun. No one should own a gun if they do not feel they could be a safe and responsible gun owner. I am merely confused by your stated reason for not having one.

OH, and I forgot to say: First rule of gun handling. Assume ALL guns are loaded. Especially if the owner says they "never keep loaded guns"