ok, thanks, and yes - I have been searching the forum for various, poison-free methods of rodent control and found a few to try, and yes, I let the finger bleed well then dosed with peroxide and anti-biotic, it's mostly healed now so, I'm good there, hopefully I will nip any rat infestation in the bud (mice in the country on-going even before the chickens and with cats, but some of the ideas on the forum look good) my egg counts are up already so I think that there are not a lot of rats (I found the nest and there was just the one.)