Raw diet for dogs?

[Garlydog]

What I find amazing is how many folks are convinced that dried kibble is good for their dogs and defend it passionately as fact.

This is 100% manufactured marketing nonsense. The funniest/saddest is that kibble cleans a dogs teeth. This is pure B.S. If anything it makes their teeth worse over time. Almost all dogs that eat kibble their entire life will have painful teeth problems as adults.

Commonly held positive beliefs about manufactured dog food are perfect examples of how we have as a society been manipulated by commercial concerns to ignore common sense.

Dogs eat meat, poop, rotting dead animals and just about anything else they can find if left to their own devices. A raw diet rewinds our thinking back to what nature already figured out is best for our beloved dogs.

After you switch to a raw diet, the positive results are SO OBVIOUS, that you will look at kibble as poison.

Here is another fun fact:
The nutrition curriculum in every veterinary school is funded by guess who....the pet food industry. Vets are get an extra strength dose of brain washing about benefits of manufactured pet food before given a license to practice.

 

[redhen]

I need to try to find a meat place around here thats willing to sell the scraps and bones. I'm calling blue seal today..(you know the guys that make the kielbasa and hot dogs) and another meat/butcher store in the city by me. Maybe they'll start to sell to me. THere is also a hog farm up the road from me...i wonder what they do with with the pork scraps? *off to make some calls*

i also think that i'm going to add brown rice to their meal and i already do the Kale and swiss chard thing...because many years ago i read in a paper from cornell that they have something in them thats healthy for dogs joints. And i have giant breed dogs, so..
Thanks for all the help!

 

[Stina]

I personally wouldn't add rice or any other grain to any dog's diet. Grain is NOT a natural part of their diet...some veggies, fruits, and perhaps starches...but not grains. When my dog gets raw he gets meat/organs/bones (sometimes as whole prey), and a few herbs and a little honey...that's it...and he does great on it. Herbs are PACKED with vitamins...go look at nutritional info for a few...its crazy!

After you switch to a raw diet, the positive results are SO OBVIOUS, that you will look at kibble as poison.

I actually did not notice much of a difference in my dog when I started him on raw.......besides that his stools dissappeared in like a week. Besides that he looked and acted pretty much exactly the same as he had before. I attribute the minor difference to the fact that he was on a high quality kibble with no corn, wheat, or soy before switching. However, I do believe that raw is the most appropriate diet for them and would like to do all raw....I just can't afford it at around $2/lb for 2 dogs now. I am switching to mostly grain free kibble with 32-34% protein (mixing brands...right now we have Merrick Before Grain and Taste of the Wild) and giving raw a couple times a week. I do not believe that all kibble is "poison" and think that's an awefully harsh statement.​

 

[Wifezilla]

The nutrition curriculum in every veterinary school is funded by guess who....the pet food industry. Vets are get an extra strength dose of brain washing about benefits of manufactured pet food before given a license to practice.

Exactly!!!!

There are people who believe that somehow feeding your animal an evolutionary based diet is going to turn them in to a newt

 

[dixygirl]

I think people can eat whatever they want and feed their animals whatever they want. But there is no need to try to recruit others. Afterall, dogs will eat their own excrement and any other animal's excrement too, so raw meat is nothing for them. They will eat raw horse meat and road kill alike. I will not do it but I have no problem with others and their dogs eating whatever they want. As long as they don't try to recruit me to eat it. Live and let live.

PS I have spoken with several humans who eat raw meat and I noticed that all the ones that I spoke with happened to have a very dark cast to the skin around and under their eyes as if they were tired or ill. Just an observation.

 

[Stina]

I went to vet school for a year and took the 1 nutrition course required. I don't know what the courses are like at other schools...but at Kansas State nutrtition is funded by Purina and Science Diet....HOWEVER, they do not say that raw or other ways of feeding are "wrong" or necessarily "bad"......they just don't get into it and basically warn that most people who cook for their dogs do not do it right. Vets need to be very careful recommending raw or home-cooked foods.....as people are very sue happy these days, and most vets don't know how to formulate any sort of diet much better than your average joe....as its easiest to push what they've had in front of them that requires no work and has little risk.

I think people can eat whatever they want and feed their animals whatever they want. But there is no need to try to recruit others. Live and let live.

I think some of the comments about kibble have been harsh.....but most of what's being said isn't "recruiting" its simply putting out information..... Is going to school and learning about history "recruiting" you to be a historian??.... Everyone is welcome to make their own choices.....but that doesn't mean you should get mad at people for trying to share information. Also this thread is about someone who WANTS to do a raw diet....so no recruiting there....the op is already on board and just wants more info.​

 

[redhen]

My other concern is: I know that dogs can withstand the bacteria from the raw meat, BUT.. what if your dogs immune system is weak for some reason that you dont know about? Lymes..or whatever.. Can they STILL eat raw safely? Can the bacteria overwhelm their system then?

Also, cant you get tapeworm from raw meats?

 

[Redyre Rotties]

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For most dogs, grains are not needed and can sometimes cause issues when they are included in a diet.

Grains and other carbs are beneficial and I include them when I have b.itches in whelp, lactating, and with puppies until about 9 months and the rapid growth is finished.

I use whole grains such as oats and brown rice.

 

[redhen]

Well..one meat place is out..*sigh* they dont sell scraps. Only the beef bones..Back to the drawing board..

 

[Wifezilla]

For most dogs, grains are not needed

For most PEOPLE grains are not needed either. There are essential fatty acids (fats), their are essential amino acids (proteins), but there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. What is in most commercial feed? Corn, rice, soy, potatoes, etc... It's criminal.​