Reccomended Medications/dosage for respiratory issues, PLEASE!

[AndreaS]

Hi Guys,

I know this issue comes around the forum on a fairly regular basis....so i apologize for bringing it up yet again, but i need some specific reccomendations for possible respiratory infection treatment, for *7 week old chicks*

My girls are 7 weeks old, and i have 5 in total. 2 Salmon Faverolles, 2 EE's and 1 Welsummer. They have been in their chicken tractor for 2 weeks now. Their coop has pine shavings in it. They are closed up at night and get access to their run during the day. They are vaccinated for Mareks, they are on medicated chick starter and get 1 TBS of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar in their gallon of water every few days or so. They don't get many treats, scrambled eggs every once in awhile and the occasional yoghurt or a sprinkle of flax seeds.

I try and spend some time in their run with them every evening around dusk before they go up. They usually settle down on me and nap a bit and get petted. Tonight i noticed that one of my Salmon Faverolles (Weezah) was breathing through her mouth while falling asleep. Upon closer inspection, she has a tiny bit of bubbling in her eyes and clear fluid coming from her nose. It does not smell bad, and there is no swelling in her face. She is acting 100% normal. I inspected all the other girls, and they all look fine. I have had issues with them sneezing occasionally since they were very small, but was told this was pretty normal.

The weather has been rainy and very humid. We have had a lot of temperature fluctuations in NC lately, and it has been really windy the past two days. They have a heat lamp in their coop at night.

I have read up on the respiratory problems a little, and do realize that an antibiotic only will treat a secondary infection- not a virus. I know everyone has different feelings about this, but i do want to try and treat Weezah. These girls are a "pet" backyard flock of 5. However, i am not planning on taking her to a vet, so would like to try this myself. I have not seperated her from the flock yet, it seems like these things are so contagious that i should treat them all, right?

It's so ironic, because just this morning i placed an order for the "chicken health handbook" and i also ordered some VetRX and food grade DE. Of course, they won't be here for a week. So much for being prepared in advance!!

I have been making a shopping list so that i can build up a first aid kit based on the reccomendations from ThreeHorses on a previous first aid thread. Right now all i have is the poly-vi-sol without iron. I will start giving them all a drop tomorrow.

Poops look pretty normal, as far as chicken poo goes....it's hard to tell the cecal (sp?) poop from diarrhea. I have noticed a few really runny poops that were dark brown, not orange like the usual cecal....but no blood. And when i look at the "normal" chicken poop page....it seems like everything is normal. I have not actually seen Weezah poop since i noticed the problem. I will be watching her like a hawk tomorrow though!

All of them are acting happy, healthy, perky and hungry....

SO.....my questions are:

What meds would you reccomend? Terramycin? Tylan? I have never done an injection, but am more than willing to learn.

If i should use an injectable, what size needle should i get, and where should the injection be adminstered?

Is it safe to use meds with them being on medicated chick starter?? Should i take them off the starter?

I don't have a scale, so do not know how much my girls weigh yet. They are only 7 weeks old, so i'm guessing the dosage should be different?

Would you treat all 5 of them, just to be safe? I have heard sneezing from several of them.


I have a southern states, tractor supply and good ol' country feed store around here....so i can go tomorrow to get whatever you guys reccomend.
Thank you in advance for your responses. I try really hard not to ask a question without searching for answers on previous threads first....

I adore my girls and really hope i can tackle this!

Andrea

 

[AndreaS]

I didn't realize that right as i posted someone had asked a bubbly eye question while i was typing!
So...this oxine....you guys think it's safe? safe on chicks as well?
should i still try an antibiotic in their water for possible secondary infections and do the oxine spray?

Is oxine something you can only order online, or do feed stores sell it?

Thanks again

 

[naked_heels]

you can try Tylan 50 .5cc thru oral twice daily for 3days you should see a good result, I've very goodluck with Tylan50. If you want Oxine try Amazon, they got the best price.

 

[AndreaS]

Thanks! I've never heard of using Tylan orally.

 

[AndreaS]

Anyone else?

 

[AndreaS]

I went to the feed store this morning before work and purchased tylan 50, vet rx, and duraamycin-10. I also bought some probios powder to replinish their systems after the antibiotics. I put a few drops of vet rx in their water and bedding. Tonight I will give the sick one some Tylan. I was thinking of giving all of them some duramycin in their water when weezah is done with the tylan. Does this sound like a good idea? Also, should I give them the probios during treatment or wait until I am done with the antibiotics?
Thanks

 

[Wynette]

I would personally not treat them all; if they are naturally fighting it, let them do so on their own. I would separate the one who is ill and treat her. Tylan 50 is, to my knowledge, not made to be given orally; there IS a form of Tylan poweder that is to be mixed in drinking water; however, they have to drink quite a bit, so you would likely have to syringe it into her mouth to make sure she's getting enough. Here is info. on dosages:

CRD

Chronic Respiratory Disease
Run LS 50 for 1st 14 days of life; 1 shot (.5cc subcutaneous) @ 7 days, wait at least 4 weeks 2nd vaccination, annual booster.
Coryza 1st shot (.5cc intramuscular) @ 3 weeks old-wait at least 4 weeks before 2nd vaccination, annual booster.
Marek's Disease .2ml subcutaneously at 1 day old to prevent range paralysis (not useful after 1 day of age)
Poxine Vaccinate with web pricking needle provided anytime after 6 weeks of age to prevent fowl pox, booster annually.
Newcastle-Bronchitis 1 day old or older, mix in drinking water or intranasal/intraocular, effective for 90 days only!
Injectables
Penicillin antibiotic, 1/2cc for 3 to 5 days for wound infection, use 3cc's orally 3-5 for cholera
Ivomec 1/8-1/4cc orally for round, cecal, gape, capillary, lung, and stomach worms. Does not kill tape worms. Does kill some lice and mites.
La200/ Durvet 72 200 1 cc orally & 1 cc intramuscular twice daily for 5-7 days, broad spectrum time release antibiotic.
Omnimycin CRD antibiotic: 1/2cc for 3 to 5 days
Valbazen 1/8cc-1/4cc orally for tape womers. Does not kill round of Cecal worms.
B15 1/10 to 2/10ths for 3 days
Tylan 50 Respiratory antibiotic, 1/2cc subcutaneously and 1/2cc in the breast for 7-10 days to treat CRD. Vitamins A&D 1/4cc intramuscular once every2-3 weeks in brood stock to improve fertility and hatchability.
Vitamin B- Complex 1/2cc intramuscular daily to increase appetite and energy.
Spectram Injectable Respiratory antibiotic, 1/2cc subcutaneously and 1/2cc in the breast for 7 to 10 days to treat CRD.
Vitamin B-12 1/2cc intramuscular daily to increase appetite and energy.
Tablet and Capsules
Fish Mox (pennicillin) 1 capsule per day for 5 days to treat wound infections and other infections sensitive to penicillin.
Fishzole 1 tablet per day to help treat canker
Wormazole 1 tablet, then repeat in 10 days for treatment of round, Cecal and tapeworms
Vitamins B12 100mg 1 tablet daily to increase appetite and energy
Vitamin K 250mg 1 table daily for 3-5 days, blood coagulatant- helps stop bleeding.
Cod Liver Oil Capsules 1 tablet 2-3 times per week, great source of A&D
Solubles
Corid For coccidiosis: 1t per G of water for 3 days, then 3 days ASP vitamins, followed by 3 days of Dimethox at t per G of water.
Aureomycin/CTC 1T per G of water for 10-14 days minimum, combine 1/2t vitamin or 1 cup cranberry juice. May be combined with 1/2 to 2t Erymycin for respiratory problems.
Bacitracin/Solutracin 1t per G of water combined with 1/2t Neomycin for 5-7 days- treats intestinal problems and diahrea.
Copper Sulfate 1/8t per G of water 1 to 2 days a month to kill algea and protozoans in water.
Permethrin 10% 21/2 T per 2 gallons of water (or 8 oz mixed in 121/2 G of water. Dip birds until completely saturated (except head) Wear disposable gloves and eye protection.
Electrlyte Pak 1t per G of water 3-5 days during perios of heat stress or after medicating birds. Help to rehydrate and balances minerals in blood.
Gallimycin/Erymycin 1/2 to 2 t per G of water depending on severity of the CRD symptoms. Minimum of 10-14 days recommended
ASP Vita-Pak Concentrated vitamins and electrolytes. 1/4t per G of water, for 1-14 days of life. then 2 or 3 days a week. Can be added to wet feed.
LS-50 1t per G of water during 1st 14 days of life for respiratory problems (CRD) use 1t per G of water for minimum of 7-10 days.
Neomycin/ Neo-Sol 1.2t per G of water combined with 1t Bacitracin for 5-7 days. Treats intestinal problems including diahrea.
Wazine 17 percent Mix 2 fluid oz with 2 G of water to treat 100 birds over 6 weeks of age. Wazine also comes in a 34% solution.
Tylan Water Soluable 1t per G of water for respiratory (CRD)symptoms, Minimum of 7-10 days .
Terramycin/ Tet Sol 1T per G of water for 10-14 daysminimum, combine 1/4t vitamins or 1 cup cranberry juice. May be combined with Erymycin for respiratory problems
Sulfadimethoxine Soluable 1t per G of water for 5 days for coccidiosis, coryza, e coli, salmonella
Other
Anti Pick Lotion Apply topically to reduce feather pciking
Chalk Apply to spur after cutting to reduce bleeding
Earmite Medication Apply several drops in the ear twice daily for 2-3 days.
Cod Liver Oil 1T per G of feed once a week for adult fowl as a vitamin A&D supplement.
Tek-Trol Concentrate 1/2 ounce (1T) per G of water for disinfecting premises, incubators etc.
Red Cell 1T per G of feed; may be combined with 1T cod liver oil or 1T wheat germ oil.
Red Kote w/Dauber Apply liberally to legs to prevent and treat scaly leg. Will also enhance leg condition and color.
Scarlet Oil Spray Apply liberally to the legs to prevent and treat scaly leg. Will also enhance leg condition and color.
Vet Rx Inhalant for respiratory problems; 1 drop under wings and chest or may be added to the drinking water per instructions.

Please Note: T =tablespoon, t=teaspoon, G=Gallon, cc and ml are synonymous terms.

 

[AndreaS]

Thank you so much! That is exactly the kind of information I need. Because she isn't fully grown, would you reccomend doing 1/4 CC instead of 1/2? Also, am I correct in thinking they want you to inject it under the skin and in the muscle? I have never done an injection before, but realize I need to learn.

Since she is acting 100% fine and has very mild symptoms, would you just try the vet rx first for a few days and hope she can fight it off, or do these things advance so quickly that I would risk loosing her if I don't catch it early?

Thank you again, I'm so scared of doing something wrong....I just need to know I'm not missing anything important.