Red Laced Cornish X and project talk (pics p. 8)

[KatyTheChickenLady]

steve - "I do know he uses Facebook and think I remember his art there, and does not understand why I won't use the site [too many emails of "interested in meeting a man" or "looking for relationship"; if they looked like their pictures and were capable of a relationship, they wouldn't have to be sending emails to an old man]."

BAHAHAHAHAHAA . . . JEEZE STEVE! I resisted FB too, but finally got forced on by my oldest. Now I love it! at least once a month I hear from someone I haven't heard from in 20-30 years, and it allows my whole family to stay connected in a few strokes of the keyboard. Go on and check out my page . . . I think you will find it far less of the "singles site" than you are imagining lol! My name on there is;
Katy Copin Lester . . . just don't tell anyone on here what I look like!

 

[pepper48_98]

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Thank you

 

[big medicine]

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All I had noticed was that the jubilee were more white; Big Medicine recently explained that jubilee were double laced as opposed to just laced.................... kinda like the difference in color between a black laced red Wyandotte hen and a dark Cornish hen, only in white and red instead of black and red.

P.S. I now know my hatchery sourced WLR Cornish had some jubilllees also. As I understand it, many carry both genes and jubillees can crop out. I used a quality DC over my hatchery sourced WLRC to improove their type................. it remains to be seen how well they were improoved and final feathers pattern, but they are all red and white

The way I understand it the only difference between a single laced(WLR) and double laced(jubilee) genetically speaking is the presence (CO/CO,single laced) or absence (co/co, double laced) of the Columbian allele. Now crossing the two gives you a bird carrying one copy CO/co, a tweener as it where, not cleanly in either camp, but with proper selection and breeding can be cleaned up into either lacing pattern.

 

[knjinnm]

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Hi,
I assume this guy was culled because he did not have the jubilee pattern the birds in the first photo have. At what age did it become apparent that the rooster wasn't going to have a jubilee pattern? The jubilee pattern in the first photo reminds me of a grizzled pattern.
Joe

 

[MobyQuail]

great painting Katy, very nice sketch Steve.

Steve- that looks like a "Johnson" dog? am I close? had a friend in Columbia, SC that had 2 bulldogs, they were Johnson.

off topic, we have 2 wonderful pitbulls, we rescued both, a 12 year old red-nosed, chocolate, Flo is more terrier than bull. And an 18 month old colby X razors edge, Grace is coal black with white feet and a mastiff noggin- guessing her backyard breeders, did not realize that Blue X Red gets you Black and brindle...

and back on topic- both are great dogs with chickens and chicks...

 

[KatyTheChickenLady]

Very Cool!

 

[big medicine]

One thing to keep in mind is in a single laced bird(WLR) both sexes are colored pretty much alike, with exception of white shoulders, and obviously saddle, and hackle feathers on the males. With double laced birds(jubilee) the sexes are colored very differently. While the females have double laced feathers over most of her body, the males should have a solid colored chest, white in a jubilee, black in a dark, with considerably less red on the wings/back than you would find on a WLR.

 

[pepper48_98]

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Hi,
I assume this guy was culled because he did not have the jubilee pattern the birds in the first photo have. At what age did it become apparent that the rooster wasn't going to have a jubilee pattern? The jubilee pattern in the first photo reminds me of a grizzled pattern.
Joe

He was a cross. Bred to eat and nothing more. Not really concerned so much about color as I am meat. I don't know anything about genetics and at this age doubt if I ever will. That is why I have gone to whites. Very simple, if it isn't white, the color is off. I do however have several nice WLR and also darks but my main concern is type first.

 

[SteveH]

Charley, I like your crossbred for both meaty type and flashy color, sorta looks red pyle with wlr blended in.

Katy, I canceled FB because of too many emails I felt I didn't need.

Model A, I have Johnson type ABs, but with some old hog catching lines in their pedigrees.

Gary, thanks for the naming the gene again. I knew it was one I would not have assosciated with lacing, but could not remember it was columbia. Also I had plenty of troubles, with the hatcher, but still was blessed with 2 whites, 4 darks, and 1 splash [I think it's splash] left alive tonight. [I had a very healthy looking chick that went down in the brooder today and was culled, and another that hatched with completely unabsorbed yolk that I left in the bator also died today.]

 

[big medicine]

Well hopefully that will give you enough of a start to get all mad scientist on.