I have several birds out here that I know are Black Giant hens with a Dark Cornish roo as parents and they come out black with red leakage, almost like BBR coloration. It is beautiful!
Red Laced Cornish X and project talk (pics p. 8)
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Black is correct, with possibly some red leakage. The farther off the color genetics on the parents are, the more red bleed you'll see.
True Dark Cornish males should appear primarily black with a beetle sheen of green reflecting in the sunlight, with only a narrow band of red showing on each wing. The females should be bay with double black laceing. When crossed to a properly bred black, you shouldnt get much bleed; but future generations will likely show more because they're not carrying the correct color genetics for blacks, even if they look pure black themselves. Not all Black Orpingtons or Dark Cornish will be carrying the correct color genetics for their variety. I've noticed that the DC from hatcheries never seem to be quite the correct color; though they can be strikeing in their lighter, brighter, more orangish base colors. I suspect you'll see more bleed on their offspring when crossed to black. My young DC X Black Ameraucana cockeral is currently pure black with a lot of sheen already showing, but he may develope some red bleed as he matures.
Black is correct, with possibly some red leakage. The farther off the color genetics on the parents are, the more red bleed you'll see.
True Dark Cornish males should appear primarily black with a beetle sheen of green reflecting in the sunlight, with only a narrow band of red showing on each wing. The females should be bay with double black laceing. When crossed to a properly bred black, you shouldnt get much bleed; but future generations will likely show more because they're not carrying the correct color genetics for blacks, even if they look pure black themselves. Not all Black Orpingtons or Dark Cornish will be carrying the correct color genetics for their variety. I've noticed that the DC from hatcheries never seem to be quite the correct color; though they can be strikeing in their lighter, brighter, more orangish base colors. I suspect you'll see more bleed on their offspring when crossed to black. My young DC X Black Ameraucana cockeral is currently pure black with a lot of sheen already showing, but he may develope some red bleed as he matures.
Two more white crop outs from eggs I hatched from Big Medicine's blue laced red Cornish project. ETA: 11 weeks
I'm back and forth on this one, male or female................... leaning toward female again. Its currently going through a weedy growth period, as they all are, but it's looking to be more slender where as it was once the thickest. It has two or three blue feathers so is easy to distinguish from the other two.
Pretty sure this a cockeral. He appears to be a bit harder feathered than the other two.
I'm back and forth on this one, male or female................... leaning toward female again. Its currently going through a weedy growth period, as they all are, but it's looking to be more slender where as it was once the thickest. It has two or three blue feathers so is easy to distinguish from the other two.
Pretty sure this a cockeral. He appears to be a bit harder feathered than the other two.
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Last picture for awhile, I promise.
I was getting ready to delete some pictures and decided to keep this one. The molting sure isn't pretty, but I love the wide shouldered, heart shaped bodies of Cornish, and this picture captured it well.
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Black is correct, with possibly some red leakage. The farther off the color genetics on the parents are, the more red bleed you'll see.
True Dark Cornish males should appear primarily black with a beetle sheen of green reflecting in the sunlight, with only a narrow band of red showing on each wing. The females should be bay with double black laceing. When crossed to a properly bred black, you shouldnt get much bleed; but future generations will likely show more because they're not carrying the correct color genetics for blacks, even if they look pure black themselves. Not all Black Orpingtons or Dark Cornish will be carrying the correct color genetics for their variety. I've noticed that the DC from hatcheries never seem to be quite the correct color; though they can be strikeing in their lighter, brighter, more orangish base colors. I suspect you'll see more bleed on their offspring when crossed to black. My young DC X Black Ameraucana cockeral is currently pure black with a lot of sheen already showing, but he may develope some red bleed as he matures.
Your and Minnie's reply makes sense. The black orp is a proper black breeder bird with super green sheen. The female, however, is hatchery and not properly colored, she looks bay but her her black looks mahogany red in the right light. So I expect some red leakage from what you say just because of that.
Thank you for the insight! Incubator will be free in a week so I'll be collecting eggs starting tomorrow. It'll be exciting to see what I end up with, other than colorwise.
Black is correct, with possibly some red leakage. The farther off the color genetics on the parents are, the more red bleed you'll see.
True Dark Cornish males should appear primarily black with a beetle sheen of green reflecting in the sunlight, with only a narrow band of red showing on each wing. The females should be bay with double black laceing. When crossed to a properly bred black, you shouldnt get much bleed; but future generations will likely show more because they're not carrying the correct color genetics for blacks, even if they look pure black themselves. Not all Black Orpingtons or Dark Cornish will be carrying the correct color genetics for their variety. I've noticed that the DC from hatcheries never seem to be quite the correct color; though they can be strikeing in their lighter, brighter, more orangish base colors. I suspect you'll see more bleed on their offspring when crossed to black. My young DC X Black Ameraucana cockeral is currently pure black with a lot of sheen already showing, but he may develope some red bleed as he matures.
Your and Minnie's reply makes sense. The black orp is a proper black breeder bird with super green sheen. The female, however, is hatchery and not properly colored, she looks bay but her her black looks mahogany red in the right light. So I expect some red leakage from what you say just because of that.
Thank you for the insight! Incubator will be free in a week so I'll be collecting eggs starting tomorrow. It'll be exciting to see what I end up with, other than colorwise.
So I'm thinking about giving up my meat-bird project, at least for a while. I've been thinking about it for a few days, and I know it will set me back in my breeding program later, but I just don't have the time or money for that project right now; it's costing WAYYYY to much to feed all these meatbirds.
I'd like to re-continue it after we move and I'm finished with school (I'm a full-time student).
I'd like to focus on my Ameraucanas right now. They are easier to take care of and eat WAY less. This would also give me an extra pen for them, AND we have more than enough meat for my family and then some with all the extra cockerels I've been hatching.
Sad about the idea, but at the same time relieved I won't have to keep scrounging around for enough money to feed them every month.
I'd like to re-continue it after we move and I'm finished with school (I'm a full-time student).
I'd like to focus on my Ameraucanas right now. They are easier to take care of and eat WAY less. This would also give me an extra pen for them, AND we have more than enough meat for my family and then some with all the extra cockerels I've been hatching.
Sad about the idea, but at the same time relieved I won't have to keep scrounging around for enough money to feed them every month.
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I would think you would be able to get your extras sold for a decent price living where you do. I would advertise on CL to at least re-coop your investment. Isn't that possible?
I would think you would be able to get your extras sold for a decent price living where you do. I would advertise on CL to at least re-coop your investment. Isn't that possible?
I have some of Katy's mix (Cornish mixes), red broilers, freedom rangers, and Delaware x Red Broiler mixes... I am really happy with the way they are turning out right now...
Finally got a chance for some better photos of the Dark Cornish.
The one on the right is the largest cockerel and so far the one I think I'm going to breed with.
A couple of the pullets:
Haven't found any that I'm wanting to cull yet though the smaller of the cockerels probably won't be used for breeding.
The one on the right is the largest cockerel and so far the one I think I'm going to breed with.
A couple of the pullets:
Haven't found any that I'm wanting to cull yet though the smaller of the cockerels probably won't be used for breeding.
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