Red Laced Cornish X and project talk (pics p. 8)

[SteveH]

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I'm sure we all want to see the pics, but they won't proove anything. However, I do have papers from my doctor that say I'm sane as long as I'm on enough medication.

 

[kfacres]

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I'm sure we all want to see the pics, but they won't proove anything. However, I do have papers from my doctor that say I'm sane as long as I'm on enough medication.

the proof is in the pudding... I always heard... Proof that we are not right in the head???

I mean seriously, what kind of person runs around buying a new camera, just to take pictures of chickens, sheep and cows? I have a library of thousands, seriously, of pictures of the livestock.... mostly for our website-- but just for enjoyment as well.

then who gets on here, shares those pics and gets all

over a bunch of pictures of birds and sheep????

 

[SteveH]

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I'm sure we all want to see the pics, but they won't proove anything. However, I do have papers from my doctor that say I'm sane as long as I'm on enough medication.

the proof is in the pudding... I always heard... Proof that we are not right in the head???

I mean seriously, what kind of person runs around buying a new camera, just to take pictures of chickens, sheep and cows? I have a library of thousands, seriously, of pictures of the livestock.... mostly for our website-- but just for enjoyment as well.

then who gets on here, shares those pics and gets all

over a bunch of pictures of birds and sheep????

I can recommend a good doctor, probably will not make you any better but she can give you some papers that say you are.

 

[kfacres]

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the proof is in the pudding... I always heard... Proof that we are not right in the head???

I mean seriously, what kind of person runs around buying a new camera, just to take pictures of chickens, sheep and cows? I have a library of thousands, seriously, of pictures of the livestock.... mostly for our website-- but just for enjoyment as well.

then who gets on here, shares those pics and gets all

over a bunch of pictures of birds and sheep????

I can recommend a good doctor, probably will not make you any better but she can give you some papers that say you are.

that's all that matters to the unknowing person Those papers might come in handy someday...

 

[SteveH]

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I can recommend a good doctor, probably will not make you any better but she can give you some papers that say you are.

that's all that matters to the unknowing person Those papers might come in handy someday...

By the way folks, not all of the Illinois folks are seeing pictures of sheep here.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

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I suppose anything is possible, but doubt that the red chick's a Delaware. I do know I found a couple of fertile eggs last spring over a month after I lost every male; evidently the old "21 day to clean" doesn't always hold true. I'm thinking the red broiler over a Del should make a red sexlink; the other way around should make all Delawares if my memory is correct on the genetics.



I do believe your right there. Delaware roo over Red Broiler hens has given me all Delawares, just bigger and fatter.

The one Red Broiler must have been a hold over.

I guess that's cool now I have something to compare them to!!!

 

[SteveH]

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I checked with the color calculator to make sure I'm correct. If your Delaware roo had a cream or yellow look to his body, he wasn't a true Delaware. If crossed to another carrying his same color genetics [the hen would look pure Delaware in color] they would indeed produce a percentage of red hens. True Delaware roos have a silvery white colored body.

ETA: I had an off colored chick hatched from a setting of what were supposed to be Orpington eggs shipped to me, he was yellow and feathered white with columbia pattern. I thought at first he might have been a Lt Susssex from an egg from the adjoining pen that got mislabeled, but his feathers are yellowish now in places so I know he's a Lt Sussex X Orp cross. Like your roo, he's very large and meaty bodied, I may use him in my meat project.

I suppose I should be more clear in my explanation. Silver is a color gene that is expressed as a very white feather that doesn't show any yellowing. It is also sexlinked; if pure for it, one copy is tied to the male chromzone of roosters. The impure hens can look very clean, but the roos develope a yellowish to gold appearance depending on the pattern genetics that accompany it. Since the hens can only carry one copy, when they're crossed to a red male the female offspring will be red, but the males will all carry one copy for silver and appear white, though it will be an off-white or possibly even gold. Red sexlinks are produced by a red roo over silver hens. That is why you can't take a red roo over just any white hen and get a red sexlink chick; the white hen has to be silver based and not just recessive or dominate white alone.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

Ahhh, INTERESTING!!! So then it IS possible it was from him? I do believe he had some yellow in him. (Kinda like the ad I've seen up for hatching Delaware eggs where the male is really yellow)... So if he was yellow(ish) he could theoretically have had a red baby?

I personally think it is a holdover, it's slightly taller and meatier than the Delaware x Red Broiler babies.

 

[SteveH]

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If he had a yellowish look to him, then it would not be a theory; and the math works out to more than one of every four pullets being red out of a female Delaware of his same color genetics. Of course some of the Del hens might not be of his mixed color genetics which raises the odds of getting a red pullet. Dedicated breeders of show quality Delawares would very probably not breed those that show yellowing on their bodies if there was any way to avoid it; both because they don't meet the SOP themselves, and because they will produce more off colored chicks in future generations. Unless an individual not looking to be pure for Silver had some improovment they couldn't get elsewhere, it would most likely never be used as a breeder. For utility lines, proper color isn't as important as their production qualities, and individuals showing corn or sun yellowing may be more common in some flocks.

 

[galanie]

This may have already been mentioned in this thread but I couldn't find it. When you are restricting food on the Cornish X to raise them up and try to breed them, how much do they get? I have a few X's coming next week and want to try that out.

My Dark Cornish is laying fertile eggs now (Black Orpington roo) but the incubator is full so it'll be a few weeks before I can try to hatch any. Any guesses as to what color the babies will be? The calculator at http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm says all black but sometimes it does come up with answers that aren't right. Course it could easily be because I put in the wrong info lol.