Red Laced Cornish X and project talk (pics p. 8)

[kfacres]

Your Blue laced male could be carrying recessive white, at least one female would also need to be carrying it to express it resulting chicks. Unless there is some dominant white, brought in to the mix via some white laced red blood, in which case, should have showed itself.

Recessive white chicks, in my experience, are evident at hatch, having yellow, to reddish yellow down in this line of Cornish. Going on to develop solid white feathering.

Now having said that I do have a couple youngsters that are showing some colored feathers, which are recessive white, that I suspect are possibly covering blue, or splash. I have too many white youngsters, hatched from colored stock, that I do not need for this project.

This experiement is based off of WLR dominate white hens-- that is all I could find to purchase for my start. I was hoping to create some solid white offspring- didn't matter to me if they were dominate or recessive- as long as they were white.

For next year, I intend to breed the BLR cock to Dark hens- even though they have WLR blood in the background, I'm thinking they should not carry any dominate white.

I did have yellow down chicks hatch, not quite the 'buff' color of the WLR ones... but my novice self did not keep them seperate, or no any better.

 

[Cedarknob]

Your Blue laced male could be carrying recessive white, at least one female would also need to be carrying it to express it resulting chicks. Unless there is some dominant white, brought in to the mix via some white laced red blood, in which case, should have showed itself.

Recessive white chicks, in my experience, are evident at hatch, having yellow, to reddish yellow down in this line of Cornish. Going on to develop solid white feathering.

Now having said that I do have a couple youngsters that are showing some colored feathers, which are recessive white, that I suspect are possibly covering blue, or splash. I have too many white youngsters, hatched from colored stock, that I do not need for this project.

My line of DCs hatch as yellowish [wheaten based] with stripes on their backs. I bought three white pullets [supposedly pure Cornish, but not, though both parents were white and were supposed to be Cornish] and don't know what color their down was. Their chicks from the White Cornish cock hatched with mostly grey down, but feathered pure white. Their previous owner had tried and failed to make spangled Cornish off his whites, and I had also been told that he tried making blue Cornish at one time, so I put the three white pullets under one my DCs, to test breed for color, and every chick hatched with a very typical partridge pattern, then every one of them feathered as blue laced red, I think all double laced. I have no idea how, but the three pullets must have been splash under the white.

I culled the three whites after hatching the blue laced chicks, and most if not all of their white chicks were culled this week. [I have a pen of young chicks still growing, and there are some whites in it that may also be from the now culled white pullets.] I am thinking about keeping some of the blue laced pullets now; they're pretty nice, though not as thick as my DCs, but I hatched too few DC pullets to keep even one cockerel busy, and I've kept two of them. This is one of the cockerels I kept, pictured at just under 5 months.

 

[Cedarknob]

Once I discovered that the chicks were blue laced, I had pulled their bands off as there is no chance getting them mixed up with my DCs. However, I missed one, so caught him today to pull the band before it got too tight. Decided to snap a couple of pictures before I put him back in the pen, but could only get one to load, so will try to edit in the other later.




Here you go.

 

[kfacres]

Last night, I moved my youngest pen of chicks into the next stage of life pen. I believe there was 10 of them, and was suprised with the colors they have developed into. 2- I'm positive will be solid white, maybe a black spot or two. 2 will be WLR, 3 are BLR, and 3 will be darks. The quality of them, at this stage of life- is every bit as good as the ones sired by the good Dark cock.

 

[Cedarknob]

Last night, I moved my youngest pen of chicks into the next stage of life pen. I believe there was 10 of them, and was suprised with the colors they have developed into. 2- I'm positive will be solid white, maybe a black spot or two. 2 will be WLR, 3 are BLR, and 3 will be darks. The quality of them, at this stage of life- is every bit as good as the ones sired by the good Dark cock.

Sorry that you lost the pure bred DC and so many of the hatchery blood WLRs. Did they and the Ameraucanas die from heat in the little greenhouse? At least you still have the three dark pullets hatched in the spring, that look to good enough to be the DC's daughters, that are now under the darker bird from Big Medicine. Does he get fertile eggs from the Silky in that pen? I don't know what sired the white chicks that you have in the lighter crossbred's pen, nothing you had should have had the genetics to produce them if they're from the WLRs, though they and the blue laced reds do look to be built like the lighter blue crossbred that you have. as does the black one with muffs.

 

[big medicine]

One of this years youngsters.

 

[big medicine]

Also had something new this year. Not sure where the white speckling came from, but have at least a trio, black pair, and a blue pullet. Have to look over the youngest chicks.

 

[Cedarknob]

Also had something new this year. Not sure where the white speckling came from, but have at least a trio, black pair, and a blue pullet. Have to look over the youngest chicks.

The white or silver spangling looks cool.

 

[Cedarknob]

My Ameraucana X CX, F1s have started laying at about 5 months of age.

Some are more blue than green. I've got a mix, in the first few pullet eggs, of typically small, first eggs to a couple that are the size of a commercial medium egg. I was happy with the egg size for first eggs, as I was hoping to breed a bird that laid larger eggs than Ameraucanas, along with far superior meat qualities, and believe these will be layers of good sized eggs as they mature. I have one, black, F1, White Cornish X partridge EE pullet in the pen that may be laying the smaller green egg. I put some in the incubator Sunday. I'll be adding some Dark Cornish X Ameraucana F2s to the same pen; I love their body shape but like those big, fast growing, softer feathered CX crosses better. The F2s look a lot like dark or black Aseels, but heavier breasted, and those that I'm keeping have muffs.

 

[kfacres]

Sorry that you lost the pure bred DC and so many of the hatchery blood WLRs. Did they and the Ameraucanas die from heat in the little greenhouse? At least you still have the three dark pullets hatched in the spring, that look to good enough to be the DC's daughters, that are now under the darker bird from Big Medicine. Does he get fertile eggs from the Silky in that pen? I don't know what sired the white chicks that you have in the lighter crossbred's pen, nothing you had should have had the genetics to produce them if they're from the WLRs, though they and the blue laced reds do look to be built like the lighter blue crossbred that you have. as does the black one with muffs.

what are you talking about? You talk as if you have been here?

I didn't keep anything but baby chicks and broodys in the greenhouse this summer, too hot... and I had to move them once the snakes invaded it.

I lost only one cornish this summer in the heat, but lost every purebred Amer both young and old.

Every young bird I have, except the very youngest group- is sired by the DC. The youngest is sired by the lighter, bluer, bm bird.

I have not hatched any eggs from the dark bm bird yet.

The silkies have had every bit as fertile of eggs as any bird on the place. I have 2 young BLR silkie cross chicks about 2 weeks old.

The bluer, BLR bm cock- is not with any hens of breeding age... he's on rest for awhile.

I have three white, or 95% white Cornish, and one solid white silkie cross chick here-- all are sired by the bluer BLR bm bird.

I have three black ones- 2 are Amer male over DC bantam hens, and one is either a pure Amer, or Amer hen under the bluer BLR male. I also have two blue chicks, they are both the BLR cock, over the Amer hen.

I have been saving back the best of what I call... the DC male birds... I have 2 left that will maybe have the better one kept for breeding to his half sisters this next year. I have butchered 10 cockerels thus far, and sold several WLR chicks back home to my parent's and aunt.

I'm going to assume you stopped in here some day when I was not home for a look around.. which I'm also going to deem acceptable since there is nothing I can do about it now.

I will only be living here for another 2 weeks- and then I'll be east of Springfield.