Republican Debate?

[bairo]

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I hate to admit it sort of.....only because I really do think he would be good for a greater percentage of the country since kennedy and possibly reagan.
At any rate I do completely agree with you. You have hit it on the head. Cain is "slightly" more electable, but of course is only my second choice. I am very torn, although certain that Perry OR Rom will not get my vote (i can not believe how hypocritical they both are) they simply follow the crowd they think has the most voting power and both have been caught several times changing their stated views towards that perceived crowd vote. (I am talking about their past history, not necessarily the gop race)

 

[bairo]

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I don't think the two are in the same category...and that's all I'll say to avoid the temptation to Sarah-bash, being as this is a Republican thread.

LOL...Go right ahead. I would. She is even lower in my opinion than (i was on the potti) Bachmann, and she is an idiot. Im surprised she can breath and chew gum at the same time (like SP) I agree with the inferred statement that he is and will be ignored like Sarah....not that SP is a smart Woman.

 

[chickened]

I am less familiar with Perry than Romney but I did see enough of Romney last election cycle to know he is not my choice in the primary. I have said this earlier but Christie is my real choice but he won't run. I will have to start paying more attention to the debates and such. I would like to see a candidate with messed up hair

as dumb as that sounds, I think it could say alot about his character and honesty. Romneys' hair is too perfect.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

You assume that the poor in other countries are ready to give up their personal freedoms, did not work in Korea, Vietnam or really in any culture I am aware of.

When did I assume that?

Social contract theory is just that a theory and has no reality where the rubber meets the road.

Uprisings/revolutions/etc. seem to disagree.

One can become to dependant on the government/society and loose all sense of sustainability and reason and operate out of a learned condition..

Yep, as previous posts have indicated, I'm not keen on allowing food sources to get funneled through private/corporate/government means only.

Why do you suppose the foreigners from eastern block countries do so well here ?

There are many factors coming into play on what groups do well financially at what time. That said, most of the immigrants I know from places like China and India, within this particular area, come from wealthy families to begin with, as they were the ones who could afford to come over. Considering several of my coworkers are working the same level job as I do despite holding PhDs in their country makes me think that others coming over who do not have wealthy origins probably fair less well. I can't base it on anything though, as I only know of one girl from India who is not here on her family's dime, and that is due to being here temporarily on scholarship. Statistics and analysis would be needed to answer your question and to see how certain groups of immigrants rank on an economic scale. But, not sure what that has to do with the addressed issue of whether or not poverty exists within the US.

The idea of giving the poor some money and presto they are no longer poor does not work. I could give you a home worth 10 million and you could not afford to keep it. Again what you say has all been tried through out history and failed but alas each new generation with its' new found knowledge will try and cure the ilks of society and the sad part is the answer is right in their face.

When did I suggest money alone would solve class issues? I believe I stated at least two times prior that many factors go into class issues. That said, ignoring, stereotyping, or trivializing poverty is definitely not going to cure the ilks of society, or even help alleviate them.

The poor are simply not poor because they lack money there are too many other factors involved.

So are they poor? That is the original statement I was addressing, and I still have not heard a response as to whether it is agreed that poor people exist within America or not.


Aquaeyes, woah....do you work at the same building I do? XD​

 

[punk-a-doodle]

I would like to see a candidate with messed up hair

Now there is something we can agree on.​

 

[AquaEyes]

Punk -- huh?

 

[Matthew3590]

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Now there is something we can agree on.

I like candidates to dress and look appropriate, so it is one less thing they will get bashed for.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

It just sounds like maybe we share some coworkers. I don't personally discuss much of anything outside of what I had for breakfast with the majority of my coworkers, but a lot of conversations I overhear sound similarly logic-defying.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

I like candidates to dress and look appropriate, so it is one less thing they will get bashed for.

Appropriate yes, Ken-doll territory...kind of scary and gravity defying. Each hair...so perfectly in place. Oops, apparently they still get bashed for it.

 

[AquaEyes]

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Ah, I understand. Well, I am in Buffalo.

Sorry to take another small tangent, but it further illustrates "where I am."

I work in a laboratory with budgies and zebra finches at school. There are two vets on-staff for the labs. One of them did a "bird handling" class, which was really just a powerpoint presentation. Oh, did I mention I'm a bird geek?

So we get to the slide about how parrots have feet with two toes forward and two toes back, and that this arrangement is "heterodactyly."

Um....huh?

I raise my hand.

"Pardon me, but I've been around parrots for over 20 years. I've always encountered the term "zygodactyly" to describe their toe arrangement. What is "heterodactyly"?

The vet replies that the correct term is "heterodactyly" and that she has never heard of "zygodactyly."

I'm perplexed. How could a myriad of authors continue using the same term in all the publications I read since I was single-digits age, but this vet said it's wrong? Luckily, I had my laptop, and there is wireless internet on campus. I look up both terms while she continues the presentation.

"Pardon me again, but I looked up the terms. Zygodactyly is the arrangement in parrots and some other birds, where digits 1 and 4 point backward, and digits 2 and 3 point forward. Heterodactyly also has two toes forward and two toes back, except that it is digits 1 and 2 that face backward, and digits 3 and 4 that face forward. This arrangement is found only in trogons." I then showed her the references from online ornithology sources, including her alma mater and where I took Exotic Avian Husbandry during my first freshman year -- Cornell.

She responded, "You really want to prove me wrong, don't you?"

I said "It's nothing personal. It's about being accurate. That's science."

Fast-forward to this summer. New lab trainees coming in, and they have to take the same required 1-hour class to work with the birds. I tell one of them that the vet made an error last time, and I'm wondering if she corrected her slides. The student comes back the next day and says the vet said (without prompting) "Parrots' feet are heterodactyl. Another student said they were something else, but he was wrong."

Bad science....BAD BAD BAD science.