Resolved one issue now having another. Is this coccidiosis?

Sutherlandfarms

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I have a 6 week old black sex link that suddenly became very lethargic and began walking around with eyes closed and laying down often with beak propped on ground. She rarely opens her eyes. No discharge, no chest rattling, no bloody poop, no fly strike, no pale comb, no obvious injury.

I have separated her from the rest of the flock in a cage in the garage with water only. She is pooping. Still keeping eyes closed and not happy about being in the garage.

What is this?

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Well, what was the first issue that you resolved? :confused:

Separation is a poor choice unless she is being pecked on relentlessly. Returning to a flock after being out of sight can be brutal... PLUS all birds are already exposed to whatever is ailing her. :(

Why water only and no food? What are you feeding including treats and supplement? How has your weather been? How many birds in how much space? No wrong answers here, I am just looking for clues.

If it is cocci... ALL birds should be treated even if they aren't yet showing symptoms. Corid is what I use when needed, bought at the feed store cattle section or on Amazon. Only one of the many strains of cocci will present with blood in the droppings. But your gal is displaying what I would call classic symptoms for coccidiosis.

Return her to the flock ASAP if there is no reason not to. Sorry you face this. Hope recovery comes quickly (and it should). :fl
 
Can you show us a better photo of her face?

Some good questions from @EggSighted4Life
Why only water, type of food/treats, etc.?
Your title says you resolved one issue, what was that?

Do a general "check-up" on her, make sure the crop is emptying overnight and look for lice/mites.

Has she had access to any type of compost pile, anything rotten or dead? Laying down with the beak propped on the ground is not good. If you have vet care that is best.

I would try to get her hydrated first, then offer her some chick starter (either dry or made into a mash) alternatively you can give her some scrambled/hard boiled egg.
 
I removed her to allow her to have access to water in case the other chickens are bullying her - I haven’t seen this but it could be happening.

I ordered Corid on amazon it will be here Tuesday and I plan to clean the coop after work one day this week.

The other problem I resolved was a silkie with a congenital bone deformity that I had to exchange for another bird- nothing to do with this bird sorry for the confusion.

So I have checked for fleas/lice/etc and found nothing.

Again the reason for the separation was to ensure she is getting the hydration she needs. It’s a 84 sq foot run with attached coop that houses currently 7 large fowl birds that are 6 weeks old and 7 bantams that are 8 weeks. 3 bantams are going to a new home this week.

Chopped straw has been the bedding I’ve been using.

I live in Texas and it’s been raining a lot lately and then when the sun comes out it’s miserably humid outside.

She has not had access to rotten or dead things. I change food and water every day. They use a PNW.
 
Also idk if this helps but the chickens were assessed by a local vet who reluctantly saw two of my birds due to a sneezing outbreak through the flock. Prescribed antibiotics in the water for 10 days. When the two birds were at the vet a fecal sample was taken and the panel came back clean. This was 10 days ago .
 
They use a PNW.
vet who reluctantly saw two of my birds due to a sneezing outbreak through the flock. Prescribed antibiotics in the water for 10 days.

Not sure what PNW is?

It sounds like you have a respiratory disease running through your flock as well. This could be part of her problem. It's very hard to see her face in the first photo, do you have a good picture of what she looks like now?

Is her crop emptying completely overnight?

I would try to get her hydrated. If she is in the group that was getting antibiotics, I would make sure she is getting those.
 
Also idk if this helps but the chickens were assessed by a local vet who reluctantly saw two of my birds due to a sneezing outbreak through the flock. Prescribed antibiotics in the water for 10 days. When the two birds were at the vet a fecal sample was taken and the panel came back clean. This was 10 days ago .
UGH! I recently had a fecal done that came back negative and saw a broody poo out a large round worm. It's unfortunate that the test isn't always accurate. But sometimes it takes a little while for things to show up. I have recently heard retesting in 2 weeks could give dramatically different results. I'll be honest testing gets expensive. In addition, some birds have better immunity fighting things off. The samole from just two birds might not give a broad enough view. It's awesome that you have already sought vet help...

How long has it been since your sneezing? Only about 10 days... And where did your birds come from? Black sex link, I thought would be from hatchery which shouldn't have any disease issues... but hard to say what could have been at your property already... Or if you got them private party. I do not know the time frame it takes for that stuff to be considered clean from your ground.

My best guess about PNW... in this instance might be Purina nature wise feed? Please tell us the protein and calcium %?

Antibiotics can be hard on the system... And cause diarrhea... your conditions do sound right for cocci... but with your other concerns of sneezing and such could be a perfect storm of something trying to take her down. I agree that hydration is important and good for you for doing something! Now I think I would return her to the flock, since you haven't seen any actual bullying. And offer some sort of probiotic, either some plain yogurt, a probiotoc and electrolyte mix, or some raw acv added to drinking water... get the gut flora back on track to support natural immunity antibiotics kill both beneficial and harmful bacteria. :fl

IF I believed it was cocci, I would not supplement vitamins at the same time as treatment. The corid works by blocking thiamine to starve out the cocci and slow their growth while the birds build their own resistance.
 
UGH! I recently had a fecal done that came back negative and saw a broody poo out a large round worm. It's unfortunate that the test isn't always accurate. But sometimes it takes a little while for things to show up. I have recently heard retesting in 2 weeks could give dramatically different results. I'll be honest testing gets expensive. In addition, some birds have better immunity fighting things off. The samole from just two birds might not give a broad enough view. It's awesome that you have already sought vet help...

How long has it been since your sneezing? Only about 10 days... And where did your birds come from? Black sex link, I thought would be from hatchery which shouldn't have any disease issues... but hard to say what could have been at your property already... Or if you got them private party. I do not know the time frame it takes for that stuff to be considered clean from your ground.

My best guess about PNW... in this instance might be Purina nature wise feed? Please tell us the protein and calcium %?

Antibiotics can be hard on the system... And cause diarrhea... your conditions do sound right for cocci... but with your other concerns of sneezing and such could be a perfect storm of something trying to take her down. I agree that hydration is important and good for you for doing something! Now I think I would return her to the flock, since you haven't seen any actual bullying. And offer some sort of probiotic, either some plain yogurt, a probiotoc and electrolyte mix, or some raw acv added to drinking water... get the gut flora back on track to support natural immunity antibiotics kill both beneficial and harmful bacteria. :fl

IF I believed it was cocci, I would not supplement vitamins at the same time as treatment. The corid works by blocking thiamine to starve out the cocci and slow their growth while the birds build their own resistance.
They came from tractor supply. PNW means poultry nipple waterer so their water is clean. Their respiratory sneezing thing had been going on for a few weeks. The birds just finished the antibiotics yesterday.

Corid will be here tomorrow
 
UGH! I recently had a fecal done that came back negative and saw a broody poo out a large round worm. It's unfortunate that the test isn't always accurate. But sometimes it takes a little while for things to show up. I have recently heard retesting in 2 weeks could give dramatically different results. I'll be honest testing gets expensive. In addition, some birds have better immunity fighting things off. The samole from just two birds might not give a broad enough view. It's awesome that you have already sought vet help...

How long has it been since your sneezing? Only about 10 days... And where did your birds come from? Black sex link, I thought would be from hatchery which shouldn't have any disease issues... but hard to say what could have been at your property already... Or if you got them private party. I do not know the time frame it takes for that stuff to be considered clean from your ground.

My best guess about PNW... in this instance might be Purina nature wise feed? Please tell us the protein and calcium %?

Antibiotics can be hard on the system... And cause diarrhea... your conditions do sound right for cocci... but with your other concerns of sneezing and such could be a perfect storm of something trying to take her down. I agree that hydration is important and good for you for doing something! Now I think I would return her to the flock, since you haven't seen any actual bullying. And offer some sort of probiotic, either some plain yogurt, a probiotoc and electrolyte mix, or some raw acv added to drinking water... get the gut flora back on track to support natural immunity antibiotics kill both beneficial and harmful bacteria. :fl

IF I believed it was cocci, I would not supplement vitamins at the same time as treatment. The corid works by blocking thiamine to starve out the cocci and slow their growth while the birds build their own resistance.
Would you use probiotic powder with the Corid?
 

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