Respiratory ailment, quick killing, 1/4 flock, older hens

Liddy

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Beginning a week ago, I have lost 13 chickens to a respiratory illness.

Last Saturday evening, I found 4 hens dead on the coop floor. When I went in to gather them up, I could hear rales in the some of the hens and my sole rooster (officially still a cockerel but huge). I hastily dispatched the 6 chickens that presented symptoms.

Monday I reported the incident to the manager of the chicken health program in Augusta. If I wish to, he told me I can take a suffering bird to the state lab 2 hours away for necropsy. I work 6 days a week for USPS, with no coverage available, so that's out.

My questions are:

Should I be concerned that this is a zoonose (a pathogen that crosses species, and one of my very favorite words ever!)? I usually harvest the chicken feet for dog treats. Is it risky? I scrub them before scalding and peeling them for him. He does love his chicken paws!

Am I likely to have to cull the entire flock and once that comes (if it ever does, this winter has been unbelievable!), tear the coop apart, sanitize, steam clean, repaint and rebuild, burn the hen yard to sterilize it, and order in new chicks for occupancy about a month later?

1) What type of bird, age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
Weird. I would expect it to hit the elder hens preferentially and it did, with the exception of the Welsummer roo. He sounded the worst. All of the hens were very light. All of the remaining hens do, as well, so I don't believe that is at all diagnostic.

2) What is the behavior, exactly.
Rattling breathing, although on Sunday morning I found one hen (Peewee, a 3-year-old buff cochin and a pet *sob* :rant:hit) huddled on the coop floor, gasping with her neck extended. Bleached combs.

3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
There were no indications of illness that morning.

4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
Over the course of the week, I have found one more corpse and dispatched two more with rales.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.

6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
No idea. It's been bitter cold (well below zero at night, with additional wind chills) but that has been going on for weeks.

7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
Large flock, can't tell.

8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
Large flock, can't tell.

9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
To prevent spread of the infection, I culled the suffering birds and any that were exhibiting symptoms.
I immediately scrubbed the hanging water bucket and scalded the poultry nipples. Refilled with clean water, good measure of raw apple cider vinegar (approx. pint in 4.5 gallons of water), added packet of chick electrolytes and packet of chick probiotic since I had them on hand.

10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
I do not know of an avian vet up here in northern Maine.

11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
Do not have.

12) Describe the housing/bedding in use.
Unheated coop, Koop Clean bedding, cracked window in west end of structure, door on east side hasn't closed completely in weeks, most likely from ice in the hinges or buildup where I can't locate it. :rant

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
 
Probably a really bad form or respiratory infection or maybe coccidiosis? I normally have sicknesses hit in summer of pullet hood so i have little experience but is your water heated? Birds can get sick real fast whith cold and wind always on them, could be after suspended amount of time the older birds gave out to the weather once sickness hit.
I'd continue giving them vitamins and electrolytes and make sure any water is always melted and warm as cold water will lower their temps and make them more susceptable. Then if you have an outlet near the coop I'd hang a low power heat lamp or maybe a heat mat attached to wall nearest to roost bars to give birds extra warmth against the cold(doesnt need to be right on them, if coop is pretty enclosed it'll heat up the space anyways). You can also scramble some eggs or give protien rich treats along whith sunflower hearts and other fatty foods to give them extra energy and help them put energy towards heat and immune system. My birds get corn, peas safflower, sunflower, eggs and steamed broccoli as treats once a day in winter to help them stay strong in addition to 2 servings of feed per day in comparison to the single they get in the summer.
 
personally i dont vaccinate my birds so if they get sick I separate them but if they pull out of it, they go back in the flock, as id rather have a flock of immune birds who could pass that to their offspring than a flock of non immune birds who are constantly being picked off to the same thing. I had 3 birds out of 8 die and a additional 3 pull out of the sickness one year and one of those birds proceeded to raise perfectly healthy babies who have never been sick even if not biologically hers so they didnt even have genetic support so honestly you can cull if you'd like and that works fine, i just know ill have this flock till they die so they run no more risk of spreading illness to others chickens than the wild migratory birds in our town they just have the benefit of already being immune to bad illnesses like a child whith different forms of the flu would. They could still get sick, but their bodies have experience and as long as their conditions are good they should pull through.
 
Thank you all for your time and attention to my problem. I really appreciate the collective wisdom here.

I'm certain it isn't coccidiosis. No signs of diarrhea.

I will try to get photos posted tomorrow. I'm sure I do need to improve ventilation.

I've decided to completely sanitize and repaint the interior of the coop this spring, whether I start fresh with a new flock or not. The walls are bare OSB but the floors are covered in deck paint. I'll paint the entire interior to help seal it. I bought a little steamer so I can steam all of the seams in the walls. The floor seams are all sealed with caulk.

That will let me research improving ventilation. I'm planning to get solar capability this summer and with that, I may begin heating the coop, at least to keep it above zero!

I was a total novice when I got into chicken keeping. I'm sure I still have a lot to learn.

Thanks again to all of you!
 
Did you change anything in your coop at all? New bedding ,anything new no matter how small?
And don't be concerned about interspecies pathogens, most avain respritory pathogens are purely avain with the exception of avain influenza so let your pups eat feet.
 
No, i'm in northern Maine, about as far as you can get from the Newcastle Disease is occurring. Thank goodness!

As for any changes, I cannot think of a single thing related to the chickens. I've been using the same litter (both nesting boxes and coop floor), the same brand of feed, same scratch - all from the same source - and even the same baskets to gather the eggs. The only difference in the general environment is that squirrels moved into the garage in January. I've trapped four in rat traps so far.

I am, however, busily sealing vulnerabilities in the coop. I came nose to nose with a weasel in the garage (attached to the coop shed) and I am not going to let that little lethal bugger in with the hens. My new snowshoes have proven handy to get around back so I could secure the rear window with hardware cloth. We've had 17 feet of snow fall so far this winter and the yard is under 6' presently, with higher drifts in places.

Pictures will follow, once I'm certain the coop is secure.
 
Monday I reported the incident to the manager of the chicken health program in Augusta. If I wish to, he told me I can take a suffering bird to the state lab 2 hours away for necropsy. I work 6 days a week for USPS, with no coverage available, so that's out.

Beginning a week ago, I have lost 13 chickens to a respiratory illness.

Weird. I would expect it to hit the elder hens preferentially and it did, with the exception of the Welsummer roo. He sounded the worst.

Rattling breathing, although on Sunday morning I found one hen (Peewee, a 3-year-old buff cochin and a pet *sob* :rant:hit) huddled on the coop floor, gasping with her neck extended. Bleached combs.

Unheated coop, Koop Clean bedding, cracked window in west end of structure, door on east side hasn't closed completely in weeks, most likely from ice in the hinges or buildup where I can't locate it
I'm sorry for your losses:hugs

Look forward to your photos and more information.
How many birds do you have?
Have you added new chickens to your flock recently?
Are you using any heat lamps in your coop?
Do your chickens have access to a run or free range or have they been staying inside the coop all winter?

With that many losses getting testing to find out what you are dealing with is the very best thing to do.

I understand that you are busy and working, so getting a bird to a diagnostic lab may be tricky. You have 2 labs that you can use. Find out how to ship a carcass to the lab, most have a label you can print. Refrigerate the bodies and ship it to them. Follow the instructions that lab gives you for that or there's some tips in one of the links posted below.
University Of Maine - lab phone #207.581.3874
https://extension.umaine.edu/veterinarylab/poultry/

You already contacted the Augusta lab, they also accept submissions, I believe, but the university lab may have more to offer.

How to pack a bird for necropsy https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/how-to-send-a-bird-for-a-necropsy-pictures.799747/
 

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