Rhode Island Red yes or no?

[jacobhawaiifarm]

so where do you get the pure breeds?
If all / most of them don't sell the pure breeds...

I guess i buy all my chicks from the hatchery so i had believed them all this time.
They mix...some darker and some lighter.

What does that mean?

 

[deafguy2]

This a picture of a pure bred RIR. You can see the obvious differences.

Its been over 30 years I raised the fake RIR..... My apology for saying this but its really disappointed so anyways where could I buy pure RIR hatching eggs? Thanks Matt

 

[Fred's Hens]

so where do you get the pure breeds?

Its been over 30 years I raised the fake RIR..... My apology for saying this but its really disappointed so anyways where could I buy pure RIR hatching eggs? Thanks Matt

You may not get eggs. You might have to buy chicks or started birds. You might have to buy a trio or quad of adult birds and hatch off a bunch for yourself.

Send me a PM or send Matt1616 a private message, or BYC user name Sgribble, or BYC user name CMOM and we'll point you in the right direction, but understand, it will mean some patience and commitment on your part. Breeders of Reds aren't on every corner like WalMart.

Only a few mess with eggs. Some will ship chicks in spring and sell older birds in late summer and adult birds come winter. That's the natural cycle pretty much.

The true bred examples of most breeds are so much rarer than many people think. The number of people keeping and breeding these rare Red birds may number less than 40 people in large fowl. That's less than one breeder per state.

 

[elevatedruby]

How about this one photo shown?
nothing aganst fred but your rooster looks bettter imo. larger and more noticably a rooster you could tell the tail of yours is more roosterish

 

[Casper101Popcor]

Know this isnt important, but it looks like the hen behind the rooster ha the roosters body XD

 

[elevatedruby]

theres a difference between production reds and rir right? the oones sold as production reds are the leghorn mix right. so how would i have RIR sent but its the ones tht are productions which is a whole other section on theeir products. they may be weak gened RIR but they are still RIR

 

[gojira]

Are you talking about the covert tail feathers? The main tail feathers are black...I'm still confused about that.

Do you think this bird has a flat back?

No, I was talking about the main tail feathers. I see red at the distal end of the main tail feathers below the top two tail feathers. Keep in mind that I am going on a picture that may or may not have accurately captured the colors of the bird, and then using a different monitor than you are using, and I may see colors differently than you.

As far as the other picture, it looks fairly flat, although it is difficult to say for sure since I am seeing a shadow cast over the bird, and the bird is casting a shadow on the back of the box, obscuring his lines. I guess it is easy to see why Schilling touched up photos of even the best birds of his day.

 

[gojira]

theres a difference between production reds and rir right? the oones sold as production reds are the leghorn mix right. so how would i have RIR sent but its the ones tht are productions which is a whole other section on theeir products. they may be weak gened RIR but they are still RIR

Some people call any Red that does not have a certain look a Production Red, and other times it is a cross. In the end, you have to decide if you want a look or a chicken for a particular purpose.

 

[junebuggena]

Fred,

They look different. Can I have an explanation why the hatcheries label " RIR " instead other name than the purebred what you have. That's really disgusting!

With hatchery birds, there is little to no difference between the Rhode Island Reds, Production Reds, and New Hampshires. They are all basically the same thing but different shades of red. The darkest birds get labeled Rhode Island Red. The mid-toned birds are called Production Reds, or Cherry Eggers. The lightest ones get labeled New Hampshire.
They bare very little resemblance to the birds that are bred to standard, both in looks and temperament.

 

[gojira]

With hatchery birds, there is little to no difference between the Rhode Island Reds, Production Reds, and New Hampshires. They are all basically the same thing but different shades of red. The darkest birds get labeled Rhode Island Red. The mid-toned birds are called Production Reds, or Cherry Eggers. The lightest ones get labeled New Hampshire.
They bare very little resemblance to the birds that are bred to standard, both in looks and temperament.

Just curious, which hatcheries do this? Can you show me where this information comes from?