Ribh's D'Coopage

Seriously Shad, are you suggesting this still goes on ?~ or just metaphorically speaking~ because I can't say I noticed any forelock tugging when I was there. Class consciousness, yes ~ or more so than here.

I'm not much of a fan of cosmopolitism because for me one of the joys of travelling has been the differences: different language, different social norms, different dress, different food, different culture & it has always been such fun to learn & make mistakes & see the world through different eyes ~ but I think I am very pragmatic when it comes to people. I don't ever expect someone to put the higher good above themselves ~ which would be necessary for your ideal world. And as I've already said I don't think you can separate history & culture. History is what we say about what the culture has done. :lol:

You'd have got on pretty well with my Poppy I think. He was very much of your mindset ~ apart from Scottish independence. He was all for getting rid of the English! :gig
Of course it's stereotype and a metphore, but yes, in the North of England on the large estates and in Scotland people still do it. It's relatively rare but not unheard of.
Well, if we are going to survive as a species and in the countries with high desnity populations then we are going to have to learn to put the higher good above the more selfish desires imo. It is possible and at points in history and in different cultures it has happened.
It got stamped out in the Thatcher era with her view that there were only competing individuals and society didn't exist. The current encumbants hold a similar view. The problem is as many nations have found out is there are a lot more of them than there are of us, so to speak and revolutions succeed on this basis.
The con trick and balancing act is as always to give the masses just enough to keep them compliant and increase the personal wealth of the few.
Yeah well, I'm an old fashioned socialist and I'm supportive of my culture so perhaps Poppy and I might see eye to eye after the second bottle.:p
 
Of course it's stereotype and a metphore, but yes, in the North of England on the large estates and in Scotland people still do it. It's relatively rare but not unheard of.
Well, if we are going to survive as a species and in the countries with high desnity populations then we are going to have to learn to put the higher good above the more selfish desires imo. It is possible and at points in history and in different cultures it has happened.
It got stamped out in the Thatcher era with her view that there were only competing individuals and society didn't exist. The current encumbants hold a similar view. The problem is as many nations have found out is there are a lot more of them than there are of us, so to speak and revolutions succeed on this basis.
The con trick and balancing act is as always to give the masses just enough to keep them compliant and increase the personal wealth of the few.
Yeah well, I'm an old fashioned socialist and I'm supportive of my culture so perhaps Poppy and I might see eye to eye after the second bottle.:p

Oh well, if you're offering him good Scotch Whisky, I expect you'd be his friend for life! :lau
 
I wouldn't dream of offering anyone anything else......unless they were English of course.:p:lol:

Apropos of nothing: My poppy came out here when he was 19 & never went back to Scotland until he was in his late 80's ~ a mind set I didn't understand until I'd actually been to Scotland myself~ but so far as I can tell he managed to visit every brewery in the land & tasted every single brand of whisky! :lol:
 
Apropos of nothing: My poppy came out here when he was 19 & never went back to Scotland until he was in his late 80's ~ a mind set I didn't understand until I'd actually been to Scotland myself~ but so far as I can tell he managed to visit every brewery in the land & tasted every single brand of whisky! :lol:
Now that's a vacation!
 

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