RIP: AngryGirl, light Brahma, odd behavior

[PrettyBirdRocky]

I did not place this in the emergency/injuries because it's not urgent.

Noticed AngryGirl was off Saturday, but we have five or six going through a molt. Checked on her yesterday, she just seemed off. Wasn't moving much, extremely pale and her wattles/comb were nearly the color of her eyes. Gave her a calcium+d vitamin, and a part of a b complex.

Today, Monday 1/13, I watched her on cameras until kids got home while I was at work. She got out of coop and pretty much sat in one place for nearly three hours, pretty lethargic and easy to catch.

Had the kids bring her in, give her a mix of egg, nutridrench, and electrolytes, she ate about a tablespoon.

When I got home, gave her a calcium+d, I syringed her water, then electrolyte water, now she's eating feed mixed with the egg, nutridrench, and more electrolyte water.

Feed is 20% protein chick from mill, been on it for a year now. She's almost two years old. And hasn't laid since Oct because most of them all molted early -- Oct/Nov.

Checked vent. Checked feet. Crop was completely empty. Poop is runny but ok honestly for her not eating much. She still has some pin feathers on wings. Still extremely pale, but eating and making noises.

She's the only one of our flock of 20 that's acting like this, so maybe the feet was the issue. It is high of 19degF outside right now, in a wind blocked run, but still been low teens.

Gonna wait her out and see how it goes.

ETA: the pebbles of dirt from feet were from the crease, no wounds

 

[PrettyBirdRocky]

She is eating dry feed. Have her in for the night. Tried taking her out after she ate and pooped more(little bits) but she just plopped down. She has a pile of grit, feed, water, mash. It's about 65-68F in the section of house she's in now, don't have a garage.

Crop is filling. And don't let the poop pile fool you, it's a yellow towel lol didn't think that through (they are what we call 'dog towels' that get used for all critters, can be washed or tossed)

I have corid on standby but she isn't showing signs of coccidiosis exactly.

Will give her another hour or two before lights out only because she hasn't eaten much today, but her sisters are all in the coop.

 

[PrettyBirdRocky]

Found pictures prior.

 

[Eggcessive]

Can you check her skin under the vent and all over for mites or lice? Is the black material on her feet all dirt or is there any bumble foot scab? She looks very weak and sick, so I would offer her moistened food and egg a couple of times a day, and keep up the electrolytes for a couple of days. It could be a reproductive disorder, but hard to know exactly. Cancer is also common. Have you wormed her recently. in the first picture, did you notice any worms?

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Wow she really is pale, isn't she?

 

[PrettyBirdRocky]

Can you check her skin under the vent and all over for mites or lice? Is the black material on her feet all dirt or is there any bumble foot scab? She looks very weak and sick, so I would offer her moistened food and egg a couple of times a day, and keep up the electrolytes for a couple of days. It could be a reproductive disorder, but hard to know exactly. Cancer is also common. Have you wormed her recently. in the first picture, did you notice any worms?

No mites or lice, did check her all over for that. Forgot to add that, kept trying to remember what all steps we had taken and type them out. We tend to be very thorough, to the point we picked up some Milk Thistle in case of liver due to her coloring? But it's a wait a see right now.

All feet was dirt, cleaned them up a bit after pictures but didn't want to pick her back up for photo sake. After we cleaned her and fed her the wet mash(in photos on the hardwood/towel) we sat with her for over an hour there in the kitchen until she started wondering on her own. Then we brought in the crate and set her up in there.

Have not wormed, and no worms in poop, have inspected out in coop and didn't notice anything unusual.

Her sisters(light Brahmas who molted few weeks before her) just started turning red, so we thought they may start laying soon- this is their second winter in life and with us, and laid all winter last year, this year did a hard molt.

AngryGirl had been pale, but not this pale or lethargic up until Saturday. As in, still in a molting stage, not sickly.

Yes we already planned on wet feed, egg and electrolytes for couple days.

She ate willingly without me coaxing her before she laid down for bed, so we have everything in place for the morning. Unfortunately this is not our first in the house chicken care and the kids(16&18) are great at caring for all our critters, so she'll be in good hands until I get home from work.

Thanks and will keep posted.

I thought egg bound at first but nothing felt out of the ordinary yesterday when I checked her over and gave calcium. Main concern is getting nutrients into her- feed/water.

 

[CCsGarden]

Wow she really is pale, isn't she?

I found out this was a liver issue.
I had one that was the same way, I gave her this and she was better and red in 5 days! 1/4 tsp on yogurt . do it! It will help!!

 

[CCsGarden]

No mites or lice, did check her all over for that. Forgot to add that, kept trying to remember what all steps we had taken and type them out. We tend to be very thorough, to the point we picked up some Milk Thistle in case of liver due to her coloring? But it's a wait a see right now.

All feet was dirt, cleaned them up a bit after pictures but didn't want to pick her back up for photo sake. After we cleaned her and fed her the wet mash(in photos on the hardwood/towel) we sat with her for over an hour there in the kitchen until she started wondering on her own. Then we brought in the crate and set her up in there.

Have not wormed, and no worms in poop, have inspected out in coop and didn't notice anything unusual.

Her sisters(light Brahmas who molted few weeks before her) just started turning red, so we thought they may start laying soon- this is their second winter in life and with us, and laid all winter last year, this year did a hard molt.

AngryGirl had been pale, but not this pale or lethargic up until Saturday. As in, still in a molting stage, not sickly.

Yes we already planned on wet feed, egg and electrolytes for couple days.

She ate willingly without me coaxing her before she laid down for bed, so we have everything in place for the morning. Unfortunately this is not our first in the house chicken care and the kids(16&18) are great at caring for all our critters, so she'll be in good hands until I get home from work.

Thanks and will keep posted.

I thought egg bound at first but nothing felt out of the ordinary yesterday when I checked her over and gave calcium. Main concern is getting nutrients into her- feed/water.

I found out this was a liver issue.
I had one that was the same way, I gave her this and she was better and red in 5 days! 1/4 tsp on yogurt . do it! It will help!!View attachment 4027292View attachment 4027293

Read this post! My hen was back to normal after I gave her the Alpha and found it she it was the liver causing all this!

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Where do you get this stuff?

 

[BigBlueHen53]

I am only seeing it in capsules.