rogue rooster trying to kill me.

[Wolfefarmyard]

All that I know is that the more people who are vegetarian, the less chicken meat farms and factories that there will be.

 

[Bamabexchicks]

But it’s not just vegetarians, so does everyone else.

I just re read @Redhead Rae's post and she never said "vegetarian".

 

[Wolfefarmyard]

I just re read @Redhead Rae's post and she never said "vegetarian".

Yes I know, but they stated “people with moral issues about culling or people who don’t buy eggs from the grocery store.” So it at least applies to vegetarians.

 

[Redhead Rae]

But it’s not just vegetarians, so does everyone else.

Yes I know, but they stated “people with moral issues about culling or people who don’t buy eggs from the grocery store.” So it at least applies to vegetarians.

Everyone who buys pullets (leaving the cockerels to be killed) or buys factory farmed eggs (which implies that the males that were the other 50% of the hatch of the factory egg layers were killed) participates in the system that kills chicks.

I'm saying that someone who is vegetarian for ethical reasons and buys eggs or just pullets is being hypocritical by not realizing their participation in the system.

 

[Wolfefarmyard]

Everyone who buys pullets (leaving the cockerels to be killed) or buys factory farmed eggs (which implies that the males that were the other 50% of the hatch of the factory egg layers were killed) participates in the system that kills chicks.

I'm saying that someone who is vegetarian for ethical reasons and buys eggs or just pullets is being hypocritical by not realizing their participation in the system.

Sure, but not all are like that!
I personally am vegetarian, if you couldn’t already tell
I don’t buy eggs from the grocery store but get them from my own hens. And I personally don’t just buy pullets, I actually like roosters better, they seem to be a lot more personable than hens! But I am aware that you can only have so many with hens. That’s why I have pens so that each can have their own girls or live in a bachelor flock!

 

[Redhead Rae]

Sure, but not all are like that!
I personally am vegetarian, if you couldn’t already tell
I don’t buy eggs from the grocery store but get them from my own hens. And I personally don’t just buy pullets, I actually like roosters better, they seem to be a lot more personable than hens! But I am aware that you can only have so many with hens. That’s why I have pens so that each can have their own girls or live in a bachelor flock!

And this is how it should be done

 

[Fishkeeper]

Sure, it's great in theory, but I'm not sure how well it would work on a large scale. It's going to be a lot harder for a business to make a profit if they have to maintain a lot of hens AND a lot of functionally useless roosters. Chicken farming (and just about every other kind of farming) needs to be improved, sure, but I'm not sure fixating on the culling of male chicks is the way to fix it. As long as it's done humanely, I don't see too much of an issue with it- and most places do require it to be humane. The big grinders seem gruesome, but it doesn't get much more humane than destroying something's brain in less than the time it takes to blink.
Some roosters have to be culled even in a bachelor flock. Now and then you just get one that's too aggressive.
Now, I suppose a possible fix could be to try and genetically engineer a hermaphroditic chicken that acts like a hen but can mate like a rooster as well as laying eggs. But the way people get up in arms about GMOs, that's not happening.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Sure, it's great in theory, but I'm not sure how well it would work on a large scale. It's going to be a lot harder for a business to make a profit if they have to maintain a lot of hens AND a lot of functionally useless roosters. Chicken farming (and just about every other kind of farming) needs to be improved, sure, but I'm not sure fixating on the culling of male chicks is the way to fix it. As long as it's done humanely, I don't see too much of an issue with it- and most places do require it to be humane. The big grinders seem gruesome, but it doesn't get much more humane than destroying something's brain in less than the time it takes to blink.
Some roosters have to be culled even in a bachelor flock. Now and then you just get one that's too aggressive.
Now, I suppose a possible fix could be to try and genetically engineer a hermaphroditic chicken that acts like a hen but can mate like a rooster as well as laying eggs. But the way people get up in arms about GMOs, that's not happening.

What’s the reasoning for culling a rooster in a bachelor flock? Please don’t say its because they are too aggressive because that would be ridiculously hypocritical.

 

[Redhead Rae]

What’s the reasoning for culling a rooster in a bachelor flock? Please don’t say its because they are too aggressive because that would be ridiculously hypocritical.

It really depends on your reason for keeping a rooster flock. The purpose of my rooster flock is to keep my backup breeders away from my hens but available if anything happens to my first choice boy. One thing I won't tolerate in a breeding rooster (or backup) is being too aggressive with other roosters.

 

[roosterhavoc]

It really depends on your reason for keeping a rooster flock. The purpose of my rooster flock is to keep my backup breeders away from my hens but available if anything happens to my first choice boy. One thing I won't tolerate in a breeding rooster (or backup) is being too aggressive with other roosters.

Roosters are aggressive plain and simple. You’re asking them to be something they’re not. That’s like culling a Runner duck that won’t fly. It makes more sense to keep them separate. That’s what’s better for the rooster but rarely is what’s better for the bird what actually happens.