Russian Orloff pullet or cockerel?

MaryZoe

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I am soooo over roosters at the moment. I was hoping that one of my two Russian Orloff juvys might be a pullet. Any guesses?
This first 5 photos are the one I am holding out hope for. The second five shots I’m pretty sure is a roo.

They’re about 9 or 10 weeks old. 104E2749-60E9-49D8-B95A-2D3BDBF6C6B7.jpeg 92BD12FB-B03D-4858-AB39-61E985EC6E74.jpeg 77A46AF9-1C60-42ED-BA6F-D6773B63BDC5.jpeg 749904F4-1130-4CCC-946D-F76746C8AE52.jpeg FFD65D9B-FD0C-49B5-B7C7-1CAD0DCE892A.jpeg 0E789121-0F56-4017-BD91-2359008BD9E1.jpeg 5F4166D3-C237-42D5-99C3-7FAB7156D746.jpeg C0A8540D-2B0C-4746-8B29-07D5426A6142.jpeg 17D15EE7-FF7A-44FB-B372-1A9C74B898A0.jpeg
 
My hope for the first one is that its hackle feathers look rounded to me. Though it also might have some saddle feathers developing. I was soooo hoping for a couple, at least.
 
My hope for the first one is that its hackle feathers look rounded to me. Though it also might have some saddle feathers developing. I was soooo hoping for a couple, at least.

They are a bit young for male specific feathering. I made my 'guess' on conformation and stance which at this point can be misleading.
 
Orloffs must be slow to develop, because these look younger than 9 to 10 weeks to me. Some close ups of the combs and wattles would help.

My gut reaction is that the first one is a cockerel and the second may be a pullet. But that's just a first impression. I think you would do best to wait a couple more weeks before trying again. In the mean time, watch comb size and redness. Big & red usually means a cockerel.
 
Both look like cockerels? Anyone want them? Argh!
If they are both cockerels, that means that the latest "straight run" batch of a dozen rare breeds I bought from a Greenfire auction resulted in 10 cockerels and only 2 pullets. When I confronted them with the statistically improbable ratio of cockerels to pullets they became incensed and suggested I was accusing them of lying (they said they have no way of sexing their chicks). I've won 4 auctions from them and every shipment has been cockerel heavy--from 4 pullets to 8 cockerels to this one with just 2 pullets. Seems odd, no?
On the other hand, the eggs I bought from them resulted in 50/50 ratios, as we would expect. Grrrr….
 
Orloffs must be slow to develop, because these look younger than 9 to 10 weeks to me. Some close ups of the combs and wattles would help.

My gut reaction is that the first one is a cockerel and the second may be a pullet. But that's just a first impression. I think you would do best to wait a couple more weeks before trying again. In the mean time, watch comb size and redness. Big & red usually means a cockerel.
If either is a pullet, I will be happy. They're quite flighty, so it's hard to get near them. Their combs are also somewhat flattish, but definitely pink. My fingers are crossed.
 
Both look like cockerels? Anyone want them? Argh!
If they are both cockerels, that means that the latest "straight run" batch of a dozen rare breeds I bought from a Greenfire auction resulted in 10 cockerels and only 2 pullets. When I confronted them with the statistically improbable ratio of cockerels to pullets they became incensed and suggested I was accusing them of lying (they said they have no way of sexing their chicks). I've won 4 auctions from them and every shipment has been cockerel heavy--from 4 pullets to 8 cockerels to this one with just 2 pullets. Seems odd, no?
On the other hand, the eggs I bought from them resulted in 50/50 ratios, as we would expect. Grrrr….
It does seem suspiciously odd. And they do sex many of their breeds, so I don't know why they would say they have no way of doing it.
 

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