Russian Orloffs

[taprock]

As a quick aside for the regulars, "Fido" is the name of a pullet from Mr Casper whom my son has just fallen for. This foolish bird now comes when he calls it (slapping his knees like he would for a dog, hence her name) and she is nearly always underfoot. Well, she upped the anti the last two days. I found her hopping up the inside house steps clearly meaning to follow us in. Yesterday I was clearing a spot in the van for the dog and heard an odd sound. I turned to find Fido perched in the van looking for a spot to hang out. I put her out and she turned around and came back in-- two more times before I put her back over the fence! Someone said birds they got from Mr Casper are 'personable.' That phrase doesn't quite cover the kind of 'best friend' this bird is trying to be!

For me that predatory look is part of what drew me to RO. I have 4 from a breeder and 3 from a hatchery and hatchery may have the color right but that predatory look is gone. Without it they just look like some spangled EE.

I had to laugh at your post ashandvine because I have two roosters that I call Puppy 1 and Puppy 2 because they follow me everywhere and wait on the porch for me to come out. I have another one that won't eat treats off the ground but wants to be hand fed. This is my first year with them and I am amazed at how friendly they are. I also grinned because I have Dorkings in my flock. I love having chickens with history.

 

[CluckyCharms]

Most of the Spangled Orloffs that are out there are heavy with Speckled Sussex and Mahogany may have Rhode Island Red bred into them both will kill the the breed type of the Orloff.

Chris

That is so sad I like the Speckled Sussex...but not when it's been busy tainting another breed via poor decisions by breeder(s).

I no longer have Orloffs but have been thinking about getting back into them.

Chris

I think that's a good idea <hint>

Wow! I knew that a lot of them currently available on the market had conformance issues, but I didn't realize just how far off they've wandered over the years.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know when these deviations began? I'm assuming they were perpetuated simply because the breed was never terribly popular in this country and very few people bothered to pay much attention.

All the questions you're asking are the same ones that keep popping up in my mind. You're wording them well too, so I'll just keep posting "x2" lol

 

[gallorojo]

Black Orloff from Germany. I thought you all might enjoy this picture. They have whites and barred there as well. This is NOT my bird, picture is from a German show.

 

[CluckyCharms]

Black Orloff from Germany. I thought you all might enjoy this picture. They have whites and barred there as well. This is NOT my bird, picture is from a German show.

So awesome!!!

Thank you for sharing with us!

 

[Pozees]

Black Orloff from Germany. I thought you all might enjoy this picture. They have whites and barred there as well. This is NOT my bird, picture is from a German show.

To me this looks stunning, so I would like to know what those with experience think of this bird's type - is it correct?

 

[CluckyCharms]

Here's the old SOP
http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGK/Orloffs/Orl_CraigR.html

I'm sure someone put it in this thread already at some point - but I didn't want to scour over 100 pages to find it.

 

[DTchickens]

Here's the old SOP
http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGK/Orloffs/Orl_CraigR.html

I'm sure someone put it in this thread already at some point - but I didn't want to scour over 100 pages to find it.

I have the German standard on both large fowl and bantams too (I believe) if anyone needs it; it's in German though so someone will have to translate or I can try if need be. The standard regards type and various colors- I want to say there are even small sections that speak about each color specifically as well.. It came in a book I bought for my Kraienköppe as the book was for both breeds.. Even has some old photos of the black, white, barred, and I believe mahogany/spangled varieties too.

God bless,
Daniel.

P.s. That black Orloff actually looks a lot like the photos they used to represent the breed, but I suppose it makes sense given as they are all German..

 

[Pozees]

Here's the old SOP
http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGK/Orloffs/Orl_CraigR.html

I'm sure someone put it in this thread already at some point - but I didn't want to scour over 100 pages to find it.

Thanks - and

for your NJs :}

 

[NCSprout]

Hi Everyone! Seems like a lot of activity since I was last here. Welcome to all the newcomers!

I have seen the old "Russian" standard posted and mentioned and I have to agree with the idea that it is not the same bird that we are trying to produce. I feel (and this is my opinion) that we would be better served using the standards of the other actively showing countries (Germany, UK, Russia) I have a translated copy of the German, a copy of the UK and a pieced together copy of the Russian. I also agree that here in the US we are trying to bring them up to where they should be. We simply don't have the correct birds here. Too much mess in the pool. I do agree that crossing to a Malay/Oriental game type bird is a feasible option for correcting type, but it needs to be mentioned that this is not a short term project. I have acquired a few different breeds of Oriental Games to see what will produce the results I want, but I'm planning on this being something that takes years. I suggest that anyone interested in truly pursuing Orloffs should look into the clubs of other countries to get an idea of correct birds. I agree with MFB that there are good breeders making good progress here in the US and I think we can achieve our goals, but it is a slow gain.
http://s1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj504/TerrapinCreekFarm/My Orloffs/ This link should take you to my Orloff album. I have three lines represented to give you an idea of what I am working with as of now.
Take care everyone and hope you have a great weekend.
Ivy

 

[Chris09]

Here are a few Orloffs from the U.K.

Chris