There is such a mix of genetics involved in the Orloff that the chick down is all over the place. At this point I have not noticed a significant difference in adult plumage that corresponds to down. Most are not on a straight base as far as e+, eWh, or eb.
On the note regarding SOP acceptance, there seems to be agreement that the old "Russian" SOP is of an entirely different bird and we would be working toward a new admittance altogether. It will take time to draw up a standard and we really need a breed club. I don't think the one set up by Curtis Flannery is even an option, unless someone can actually get in touch with him (please tell him to answer my calls, letters, and emails if you do). If you have them and actively show, that will go a good ways towards the process of applying for the meet.
Here are the requirements per the APA:
Section 2. Admission of Breed and Varieties
a. A petition for recognition of any breed or variety of any domestic or foreign breed must be sent to the Secretary giving the
history of its origin, breeding background, and with facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records
of the Association. Included shall be the proposed name of the breed or variety with a standard for shape, color and weight,
written in the same style and format as the Standard and included with the petition, with copyright assigned to the American
Poultry Association, Inc. If a breed or variety that has been previously accepted by the American Bantam Association applies
for admittance and the description is in conflict with the description which was approved at a proper qualifying meet of the
ABA, then the applicant must either adjust the application so that the conflicts are removed or work with the Standard
Committee of the ABA to remove the conflict.
b. Affidavits shall be included from not less than five breeders stating that they have bred the breed or variety for not less than
five years and that it produces not less than 50% of all specimens reasonably true to type, color, size and comb.
c. Certificates showing two or more specimens have been exhibited in each class of cocks, hens, cockerels and pullets in each
of the preceding two years at a show officiated by a licensed A.P.A. judge. The Standard Committee shall contact the judge for
his or her confidential opinion of the quality and uniformity.
d. A deposit of a sum sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the text in the Standard shall
be received with the petition, which amount shall be returned in full in case of rejection.
e. The petition will then be referred to the Committee on Standards who shall name a qualifying meet at a designated
prominent show to be judged by a licensed A. P. A. judge. Such qualifying meet shall consist of not less than fifty specimens
exhibited by at least five exhibitors in all
classes of cock, hen, cockerel and pullet.
f. When satisfied of the breed or variety, the committee may recommend its acceptance, subject to final approval by the Board
of Directors, upon which it becomes a recognized breed or variety.
g. No petition for subdivision of any standard variety shall be entertained by the Committee on Standards except Turkeys.
Section 3. Admission of a new family, sub-family or species of fowl
a. A petition for admission of a new class of fowl must be sent to the Secretary describing how they fit into the standard-bred
poultry industry, giving the history of its origin and if it is still in the wild in large numbers in some part of the world, to name
those area, breeding background facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records of the association.
b. This request for admission of the new species along with the background and facts above must be presented to the entire
membership via an opinion poll in two consecutive News and Views, asking for a yes or no vote. After adequate time for
response has passed, the Board shall decide if the response has been adequate and positive. If they are not with the number of
responses or if the approval rating is barely a yes they may decide to place the issue on the ballot at the next election before making a decision, in which case a majority shall rule.
c. If the Board has given their approval based on the poll of the membership, then the members who presented the petition shall
submit a standard for shape, color and weight of the varieties in the new species for which admission is requested and written
in the same style and format as the Standard with copyright assigned to the American Poultry Association. Included shall be
affidavits as in SECTION 2, b as well as a deposit sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the new section in the
Standard. The money will be refunded if admission is rejected.
d. The petition along with all of the information listed above shall be submitted to the Committee on Standards and the Judges
Licensing Committee. These two committees shall name a qualifying meet and determine who is qualified and will judge the
meet.
e. When satisfied of the new fowl, the Committee on Standards may recommend acceptance, subject to final approval by the
Board of Directors.
f. After the new species has been approved, petitions for admission of additional varieties of this fowl shall follow the
procedure in SECTION 2.
On the note regarding SOP acceptance, there seems to be agreement that the old "Russian" SOP is of an entirely different bird and we would be working toward a new admittance altogether. It will take time to draw up a standard and we really need a breed club. I don't think the one set up by Curtis Flannery is even an option, unless someone can actually get in touch with him (please tell him to answer my calls, letters, and emails if you do). If you have them and actively show, that will go a good ways towards the process of applying for the meet.
Here are the requirements per the APA:
Section 2. Admission of Breed and Varieties
a. A petition for recognition of any breed or variety of any domestic or foreign breed must be sent to the Secretary giving the
history of its origin, breeding background, and with facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records
of the Association. Included shall be the proposed name of the breed or variety with a standard for shape, color and weight,
written in the same style and format as the Standard and included with the petition, with copyright assigned to the American
Poultry Association, Inc. If a breed or variety that has been previously accepted by the American Bantam Association applies
for admittance and the description is in conflict with the description which was approved at a proper qualifying meet of the
ABA, then the applicant must either adjust the application so that the conflicts are removed or work with the Standard
Committee of the ABA to remove the conflict.
b. Affidavits shall be included from not less than five breeders stating that they have bred the breed or variety for not less than
five years and that it produces not less than 50% of all specimens reasonably true to type, color, size and comb.
c. Certificates showing two or more specimens have been exhibited in each class of cocks, hens, cockerels and pullets in each
of the preceding two years at a show officiated by a licensed A.P.A. judge. The Standard Committee shall contact the judge for
his or her confidential opinion of the quality and uniformity.
d. A deposit of a sum sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the text in the Standard shall
be received with the petition, which amount shall be returned in full in case of rejection.
e. The petition will then be referred to the Committee on Standards who shall name a qualifying meet at a designated
prominent show to be judged by a licensed A. P. A. judge. Such qualifying meet shall consist of not less than fifty specimens
exhibited by at least five exhibitors in all
classes of cock, hen, cockerel and pullet.
f. When satisfied of the breed or variety, the committee may recommend its acceptance, subject to final approval by the Board
of Directors, upon which it becomes a recognized breed or variety.
g. No petition for subdivision of any standard variety shall be entertained by the Committee on Standards except Turkeys.
Section 3. Admission of a new family, sub-family or species of fowl
a. A petition for admission of a new class of fowl must be sent to the Secretary describing how they fit into the standard-bred
poultry industry, giving the history of its origin and if it is still in the wild in large numbers in some part of the world, to name
those area, breeding background facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records of the association.
b. This request for admission of the new species along with the background and facts above must be presented to the entire
membership via an opinion poll in two consecutive News and Views, asking for a yes or no vote. After adequate time for
response has passed, the Board shall decide if the response has been adequate and positive. If they are not with the number of
responses or if the approval rating is barely a yes they may decide to place the issue on the ballot at the next election before making a decision, in which case a majority shall rule.
c. If the Board has given their approval based on the poll of the membership, then the members who presented the petition shall
submit a standard for shape, color and weight of the varieties in the new species for which admission is requested and written
in the same style and format as the Standard with copyright assigned to the American Poultry Association. Included shall be
affidavits as in SECTION 2, b as well as a deposit sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the new section in the
Standard. The money will be refunded if admission is rejected.
d. The petition along with all of the information listed above shall be submitted to the Committee on Standards and the Judges
Licensing Committee. These two committees shall name a qualifying meet and determine who is qualified and will judge the
meet.
e. When satisfied of the new fowl, the Committee on Standards may recommend acceptance, subject to final approval by the
Board of Directors.
f. After the new species has been approved, petitions for admission of additional varieties of this fowl shall follow the
procedure in SECTION 2.
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