@sab cameras ??

I'm putting this down for now. I have work to do. I'll pick it back up tonight. We'll cover port-forwarding and DDNS tonight. I have an evening meeting so it will be later than earlier. The 720/1080 cameras are not online. I see them in my phone. They're the ones that give me angst when it comes to embedding them in websites. It's all a learning curve....
 
I use Foscam cameras and Sharx. It used to be the Foscam went online readily -- I mean to say that I could put coding in my website that showed the cameras. Not so much now. The newer Foscams must have some whopper security going on as I can't get them to show online. The sharx cameras even give you the script to use to have them live online. That bee camera is a sharx. Those cameras don't move. Sharx is more expensive. The Foscams that I have online which is all the ones on the chicken site, are older cameras. When they bite the dust, I'll have to go to a more expensive camera. Or I may find some on eBay (the older models). Foscam was bought by another company and things became more secure. I am now of the mind that the more expensive cameras are worth the $$ simply because.... well i have a box of cameras that don't work any longer in the garage. So maybe the more expensive ones would have lasted longer.
@sab if you wanna find the junkers a new home PM me.... my DS has a hint of geekiness amid his autistic-nesses and they might be great tinker things to engage him with.

Added... just saw your siggy cams. Wow! I had no idea you can do that!!!!
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Talkin' DNS & IPs.... Chicken Geekin'...

Ok - so simply put, an IP address is to the virtual world as your house address is to the physical world. If I want to talk to you I go to your address, and knock on the door and say hi and you answer or you don't. That same concept happens in the world of Internet. An IP address is assigned to your modem by your Internet provider. Unless you are a business, your Internet provider likely changes that IP address often. That's called a dynamic IP. That's what you have. What you need, is a static IP -- one that doesn't change. Are your eyes glazed yet? DNS means your provider (domain name server or service). Think of that as the phone book. I like to think of it as the Internet Traffic cops giving directions. You ask for my website and the DNS server tells you where to find it (by IP address - everything, including your phone is given an IP address). Now for the FUN part....

DDNS --- google it. I don't have a cutesy analogy for this one. You need that dynamic IP address to be static (not changing, always the same). DDNS is the solution to that. I use dyndns.org and have for years. There are several services available to you. You set up a free account. And you answer all the questions. There should be a how to section for you to follow. Not complicated at all. The service will provide you with a word address instead of a number address. For example, instead of 172.347.23.6 you will have an address of say.... in my case, blessing.dyndns.org. That's not exactly it on purpose. Principal is the same. When you set this account up, it constantly monitors your dynamic IP address and changes the address for you in the background every time your provider changes that number address. So in essence you now have a static address - just not numbers. Sorta like Mrs. Smith is the same as Mary Smith. Yet, with some men, Mrs. Smith might actually change from year to year. Still Mrs. Smith.... maybe not Mary... now Jane. Now if I want to see my cameras off site (off my own network), I use that dydnds.org address to find my camera.

One more step to this section to understand - ports. Everyone who comes to my house knocks on my front door. That's the main port - it is port 80 --- most all Internet travels through port 80. You request a webpage and it comes on your computer via port 80. Think of my house as an apartment house. Each apartment is a port. With one main port - 80. (If you are a hacker you will hit port 80 hard. And they do.) But if you want my tenant, you might knock on my back door -- and that might be port 4037. So what we are going to do is to assign each of your cameras their own port number. So when the Internet request comes in for my Camera1 -- and an Internet request comes in for my Camera2 --- the request and the answer to that request will come through it's own port. Can you spell S E C U R I T Y? That we need to do. We don't want these cameras answering to port 80.

:eek:I will tie all of this together IF you still want to go further. This is the techy stuff. The chickens don't care. The backyard chicken monitors might care. So tell me if I should continue. I hate to bore people and certainly this can be boring. But if you want live web cams that you can see from anywhere.... just sayin'... (this is so boring to even me that I can't re-read it blah:barnie)
 
You must be a Teacher ! The way you describe this is just so brilliant and easy.. IP address...go knock on your door... :gig

Please continue ! You are VERY GOOD at this !!

This should be a sticky !!!
I know Everyone here would like to watch their chickies all the time. SHoot I am here watching yours and have split my screen to watch them and do other things. I NEVER do that ! :caf

Maybe you could copy/paste this all into one article and post it for all.
I am not trying to butter you up, you ARE very good at explaining things !
 
Butter is slippery and I'm not a teacher....

I'll try and wrap this up here.

  1. You buy an IP cam. That's what your google search is "IP Camera". Don't pick a cheap one. I've already told you what I use. I can't address how the other cameras work. I really like the Sharx now that I'm using them. Too bad they are more expensive than I would like them to be. They seem sturdy. So buy an IP Camera. IP means it has it's own address. It should be wireless. IP cams can also be cabled to the router so look for the words wireless.
  2. APPS - I am an Apple user - I have an iPhone - I use IP CAM VIEWER. It will display many types of IP cams. I have used the propriatary APPS that are designed to use with say my Foscam cameras. But they won't show the Sharx. IPCAMVIEWER will show a multitude of brands. Here is what my phone looks like will live cams - screen can only show you ½ my cams - I have 19 live (I get an insurance discount btw) fullsizeoutput_3db7.jpeg
  3. Have a router - whopper router if you are buying. Know the login and password to the router.
  4. Get an extender (repeater) if needed. There are cheaper options that cover a wide area. I have almost 6 acres and my extender reaches almost ALL of that area. When the trees come out it will be less coverage. I have a camera on my beehives that is a full football field from my house.
  5. Set up an account with a DDNS service - google it - you'll find lots. Most cameras offer that for free. I use dyndns.org Write down the DDNS address you are given.
  6. Then set up your camera. Follow these steps. If you understood the previous posts, then this will make sense to you.
  • Attach camera to your router via cat5 cable. Log into your router. Look at the attached devices table. And find your camera's IP address (remember it's dynamic - assigned IP address by the router it will be something like 192.168.1.33). If you don't know which one it is, then just open a new tab in your Internet browser and and copy one of those addresses in the table in the browser address bar. If you have a wireless printer, you might hit a control panel. If you have Roku or AppleTV, or a Nest thermostat - you will likely just hit a page can't be displayed. When you hit the camera, you will see a login page. BINGO. Go back to your table to notice what IP numbers your router is assigning things. Maybe the last thing assigned is 192.168.1.254. Write that number down. Go back to your camera tab.
  • Login into your camera using the login provided - usually just admin. Immediately change the login and password to something NOT simple. You don't want your camera's highjacked. You will find everything I address under Settings or Device Manager. You are in the control panel for the camera. Go to the settings for the camera. Remember to go slow if this is your first time because, you can screw it up. Then you'll be messaging me - and you should know I only visit backyard chickens.com sporadically.
  • Are you still with me??
  • This is the order in which I do things. There are other way to do this but this works best for me. I go do the simple stuff -
    • change the time to your time zone,
    • rename the camera to what I want it to be,
    • put in a new login and password for administrator. If you want to embed this into a website, you need to set up a visitor login and password with visitor privileges. This means they can't change anything or move the cameras.
    • Go to Basic Network Settings and uncheck obtain IP from DHCP Server. That's where the dynamic IP address comes from. You will be presented with a panel of blanks to fill in. Here's where you assign a static IP address to your camera. Where do you get that?? Remember that table and that last number that your wrote down? You need to assign your camera a number higher than all those numbers in that table. You are only assigning the last 3 numbers -- everything else must be the same. You likely noticed that when looking at that table. You will assign an IP that looks like this and likely your router settings (subnet, gateway, dns server) will be just like mine here: Screen Shot 2018-03-06 at 12.02.15 PM.png
    • When you hit submit the camera will reboot. And guess where you find it?? That's right! The address you just put in. And did you change the port from 80 to something else?? After the lecture you already got that should have been a given. Assign that port at the same time. You should assign in the 7000 range to avoid any port conflicts. Mind what I say! So now find your camera again by using this format http://192.168.1.154:7015 NOTE the correct format for calling up a port is the http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:XXXX
    • Your back to your login - using your new login and password. Now go to the Wireless settings. You likely have a scan button to scan for wireless networks. Scan. Pick your home network (or your newly installed whopper extender) and put in the password. When you hit submit and the camera reboots - whaalaaa.... you are now wireless. Disconnect and take anywhere.
  • Next is DDNS -- next Post.
 
I will be looking for more cameras once I buy a farm. The price is worth it if i can keep an eye on what is going on. If it also helps catch a thief (dog/coyote) and helps me figure out how to keep them out it is a Win/Win all around.

I do thank you for all you are posting. It is a tremendous help.
now to find completely Wireless cams with a power cord only.


OHHH CHICKS !!

If your going to run a wire might as well just run a Cat5/6 and use POE...

JT
 
I use Foscam cameras and Sharx. It used to be the Foscam went online readily -- I mean to say that I could put coding in my website that showed the cameras. Not so much now. The newer Foscams must have some whopper security going on as I can't get them to show online. The sharx cameras even give you the script to use to have them live online. That bee camera is a sharx. Those cameras don't move. Sharx is more expensive. The Foscams that I have online which is all the ones on the chicken site, are older cameras. When they bite the dust, I'll have to go to a more expensive camera. Or I may find some on eBay (the older models). Foscam was bought by another company and things became more secure. I am now of the mind that the more expensive cameras are worth the $$ simply because.... well i have a box of cameras that don't work any longer in the garage. So maybe the more expensive ones would have lasted longer.

I went through a box full of IP cameras before I found some that did not have ultra high security...

JT
 

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