Sad day, but a learning day for me yesterday.

Discussion in 'Other Pets & Livestock' started by Whispering Winds, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. Whispering Winds

    Whispering Winds Chillin' With My Peeps

    I have an older Alpaca, Lacy that hasn't been herself for a few days, and I panicked because I just lost two of my GOOD $$$ Alpacas over the past 8 weeks, and still not recovered from that. When I went out to check the barn, in the morning, and actually start scooping poop, I noticed that she was obviously in labor or something. . . .so DH and I trimmed nails and I gave her a shot of penicillin just to be on the safe side and watched her, because the other female I lost started out the same way. By early afternoon, I found the placenta expelled but no baby. Ironically I just had my book out the evening before reading on birthing and dangerous weeds (because of the death of my female, thought she might have gotten hold of something toxic in the pasture) and knew that this was going to be a dead birth. Within two hours she had delivered a gorgeous little pure white female, with my help, stillborn. I was absolutely devastated, been a hard two months losing the other two, and I am very very attached to all our animals, have been that way since I was a little kid. Lacy was fine, told her baby good-bye and I took it away . . .but she is grieving this morning I can tell. My male Pyr was wonderful, he cleaned up the afterbirth and was licking the little baby when I came back to take it. They are wonderful dogs.

    The odd thing is, didn't even know Lacy was pregnant. My DH had a horrific accident last fall out working on the barn, actually separating lumber for the guys coming to put the roof on, and wind blew a 2x4 down, and then a huge aluminum ladder down on top of his head, splitting it open. In the panic that came afterward, because of the blood and knowing he was hurt (17 stitches, and a night in the hospital) he forgot to shut the gate between the two pastures and its amazing what can happen in just a matter of minutes. I guess one of the boys got to her, and that explains why she absolutely did not want the other male to breed in June. This little baby was a month or so early, but weighed in at almost 14#'s, so there was a chance it might have survived if the placenta hadn't been displaced. I comfort myself knowing that this little baby would more than likely not have suvived, because of lung issues, but still makes me so sad that I lost another one. I took pics and we are burying it today after the storm passes.
     
  2. Tinted

    Tinted Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm so sorry for your loss, glad the mom is ok though. [​IMG]
     
  3. glenolam

    glenolam Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm sorry that you've had a rough year. Hopefully it'll get better for you!
     
  4. chickenzoo

    chickenzoo Emu Hugger

    So very sorry. My friend lost 2 female llama back in Dec the same way..... passed the placenta first during a bad storm. What cases that?
     
  5. Redyre Rotties

    Redyre Rotties Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So sorry for your losses. [​IMG]
     
  6. Whispering Winds

    Whispering Winds Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:I don't think they know, and Lacy is a veteran mama, she is almost 11 and has many cria. She is sad today; I can tell by her looks and she let me mess with her which is very unusual, as she is a spitter and has known to kick a little bit. I feel badly for her; she was a mama and I know she was looking forward to that baby. I will try again in Sept. with my male or maybe the Suri and see what kind of baby she throws. I have had bad luck with getting babies. Owned these for almost 4 years, and ONE baby. Either aborted or just didn't "take" with the breeding. I am sure hoping 2011 is a better baby year.
     
  7. chickenzoo

    chickenzoo Emu Hugger

    So sorry.......... I hope next year brings you lots of crias.
     
  8. ellend

    ellend Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Placentas can attach in bad spots in the uterus, including over the cervical opening, which can be fatal, or growing THROUGH the wall of the uterus, which is usually fatal. (In people we do a cesarean section before delivery onset, and a simultaneous hysterectomy).

    Know that you CAN reach in there, with clean hands and arm, of course, and try to grab the baby's nose & forelegs and pull. Mom WON'T like it. A great confidence-building book with sections about assisting awry livestock births is "Carla Emery's Old Fashioned Recipe Book--an Encyclopedia of Country Living." It's an old, but WONDERFUL book on homesteading, and Carla has more experience than most of us EVER will. I refer to her books all the time--good, no-nonsense, easy to read & understand, and as I said, confidence building--which is critical in a case like this. This book can often be found at used bookstores.

    Of course the vet is vastly preferable, but in those emergency situations it's good to have some background, even if it's theoretical.

    Sorry you lost the babe, but glad Mom is okay.
     

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