Saipan JungleFowl from Cackle.

[troyer]

Here's the only Saipan of the right color in the group.

She looks nice.

 

[MysteryChicken]

She looks nice.

Yes, she does.

 

[MysteryChicken]

So, Saipans aren't actually from Saipan? Always wanted a Chinese Gamefowl breed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_Game

 

[MysteryChicken]

Will get update pictures of all soon.

 

[MysteryChicken]

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

So, Saipans aren't actually from Saipan? Always wanted a Chinese Gamefowl breed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_Game

They’re supposed to be. A “real” Saipan is from the stock that BW Saylor brought back from Saipan at the end of WWII. He’s the only person known to have brought them to the mainland U.S..

Some of that question goes towards what exactly the Saipan chickens were that Saylor found. He thought he had found the ancestor of oriental gamefowl, preserved on Saipan as if Saipan was a bit of a lost world.

The locals of Saipan say that the Saipans were an amalgamation of several oriental breeds released on the island over several centuries. As they cross bred, they reverted to a more primitive state consistent to what oriental gamefowl were prior to the centuries of selective breeding and genetic drift that occurred all over Asia.

Others think the Saipans were nothing more than feral Shamo or other large bodied orientals with little modification from their original domesticated state, and that they had only been there a few decades at most.

And even if the original Saipans were something special, the next question is whether the stock today really comes from Saylor’s birds, or are just similar looking orientals with no relation to the Saipan population.

 

[MysteryChicken]

They’re supposed to be. A “real” Saipan is from the stock that BW Saylor brought back from Saipan at the end of WWII. He’s the only person known to have brought them to the mainland U.S..

Some of that question goes towards what exactly the Saipan chickens were that Saylor found. He thought he had found the ancestor of oriental gamefowl, preserved on Saipan as if Saipan was a bit of a lost world.

The locals of Saipan say that the Saipans were an amalgamation of several oriental breeds released on the island over several centuries. As they cross bred, they reverted to a more primitive state consistent to what oriental gamefowl were prior to the centuries of selective breeding and genetic drift that occurred all over Asia.

Others think the Saipans were nothing more than feral Shamo or other large bodied orientals with little modification from their original domesticated state, and that they had only been there a few decades at most.

And even if the original Saipans were something special, the next question is whether the stock today really comes from Saylor’s birds, or are just similar looking orientals with no relation to the Saipan population.

These what I've got do look exactly like the Taiwanese Gamefowl/Taiwan Shamo, or Chinese Aseel. Whatever you wanna call them.

Maybe that's what they actually are?

 

[MysteryChicken]

Will get a picture next time showing posture of the cockerels. One really stands very tall, & upright like a person on occasion.

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

These what I've got do look exactly like the Taiwanese Gamefowl/Taiwan Shamo, or Chinese Aseel. Whatever you wanna call them.

Maybe that's what they actually are?

That’s the million dollar question. Are hatchery Saipans really Saipans? We don’t really know.

 

[MysteryChicken]

That’s the million dollar question. Are hatchery Saipans really Saipans? We don’t really know.

Or are Saipans, really from Saipan? Just another add on to the question.