Salmonella and death of young drake

[JadeComputerGal]

I will do some searching and get you sources for all the drugs you listed. Tetracycline, oxytetracyline and injectable Tylosin are available at Tractor supply, but for some reason the powdered tylosin is a little harder to find, but it's out there. Other drugs, like Cephalexin, SMZ/TMP, metronidazole, Cipro and Augmentin are also available. Then there are the anti-fungals like ketoconazole, fluconazole and nystatin, they're also available. Hmmm, maybe I'll put together a list of all of them.

-Kathy

You've got to be kidding. I really had no idea, and I'm appropriately embarrassed. Thank you so much for getting a list when you can! We don't usually go to TSC because the closest one to us is around 40 minutes away. The thing I always call "our feed store" is actually an Ace Hardware franchise store that's a combination Ace Hardware and farm supply store, so it's not exactly like a TSC. I'm certainly willing to make the trip to TSC, though. It would be a good excuse to have a night out because there's a great restaurant across the street from it where we rarely eat because I'm not fond of going that far for food.

You're the best!!!

 

[casportpony]

@JadeComputerGal , I started a new thread:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1022278/drugs-that-can-be-used-in-ducks-no-prescription-needed

Will add lots of info, including #of mg per teaspoon for powders and number of mg per ml for liquids.

-Kathy

 

[JadeComputerGal]

@JadeComputerGal , I started a new thread:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1022278/drugs-that-can-be-used-in-ducks-no-prescription-needed

Will add lots of info, including #of mg per teaspoon for powders and number of mg per ml for liquids.

-Kathy

Yay and double yay!!! There's a lady on another thread asking about Tylosin. Isn't that nuts that I had asked you just a little while ago where I could get that? I was asking you for the same reason she's giving it to her duck, though she hasn't yet said where she got hers.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Tylan Powder used to be available OTC, but seems it by prescription now, though there are still some jars on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/DC120-Soluble-100-Grams-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00061MQIC

One would want to check the expiration date on it.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here is another brand of tylosin, but also discontinued:
http://www.amazon.com/Tylovet-Solub...id=1442866808&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=tylovet

-Kathy

 

[JadeComputerGal]

Tylan Powder used to be available OTC, but seems it by prescription now, though there are still some jars on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/DC120-Soluble-100-Grams-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00061MQIC

One would want to check the expiration date on it.

-Kathy

Yikes! That's really expensive for something that (according to the people on the site) has a short shelf life and short expiration date. I'd still be willing to pay the $79 for it on the chance that it would help our little girl, but it wouldn't be here for a week even with the extra charge for rush shipping, and I am completely confused about the dosing. It says to mix it with confectioners sugar then treat the colonies by dusting them? It doesn't say what animal it's referring to, but the only things I can think of right off that live in colonies are insects like ants and bees. Part of the label says something about chickens, but I've never heard of dusting poultry with powdered sugar.

I'm thinking this might be one of the things on Amazon that I'm seeing all too often lately where the description isn't really for the product that's being advertised.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Ignore the part about the sugar.

Quote:

CRD indications:

• Administer medicated drinking water for three days; however, medicated water may be administered for one to five days depending upon severity of infection. Treated chickens must consume enough medicated water to provide 50 mg per pound of body weight per day. Only medicated water should be available to the birds.

Turkeys:

• Administer medicated drinking water for three days; however, medicated water may be administered for two to five days depending upon severity of infection. Treated turkeys must consume enough medicated water to provide 60 mg per pound of body weight per day. Only medicated water should be available to the birds.

For those that don't have a gram scale, you can use this info to calculate your dose:

 

[casportpony]

If I were going to use tylosin I think I would get Tylan 50 or Tylan 200 and give it orally at 25 mg per pound twice a day. I gave it by injection once and it cause a nasty, necrotic spot at the injection site, so I won't do that again. Couple of people in the peafowl group have given it orally and it worked for them.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Since tylosin has been mention in this thread everyone should know that it will not treat salmonella. According to this link:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/130/salmonella-gallinarum-fowl-typhoid/
Treatments might be:
Amoxycillin, potentiated sulponamide, tetracylines, fluoroquinolones.


-Kathy

 

[JadeComputerGal]

Since tylosin has been mention in this thread everyone should know that it will not treat salmonella. According to this link:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/130/salmonella-gallinarum-fowl-typhoid/
Treatments might be:
Amoxycillin, potentiated sulponamide, tetracylines, fluoroquinolones.


-Kathy

Since tylosin has been mention in this thread everyone should know that it will not treat salmonella. According to this link:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/130/salmonella-gallinarum-fowl-typhoid/
Treatments might be:
Amoxycillin, potentiated sulponamide, tetracylines, fluoroquinolones.


-Kathy

Sorry if I led this conversation astray. I wasn't meaning to imply that it could be used for Samonella. I was interested in it myself because of a respiratory issue that's not getting better. My hubby says it is, but I'm just not hearing what he's hearing. If I don't feel myself like she's better by Thursday, I'm going to take her back to the vet to see if he'll swab her to find out for sure what's wrong.

And yes, as far as injecting it, I've heard that nasty problems at the injection site aren't uncommon with it.