School Policy...*(&^&%!!!!!

[Quail_Antwerp]

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I understand but the office knows us, the sectuary buy eggs from us, plus you sign in and there is a buzzer on the door and they have to let you in. if you kid forgets something you can't even walk them to the room so they can get what they forgot

Ok, look at it this way - If you and your hubby/significant other were fighting and you were awarded custody, and your partner was not allowed visitation but he went to the school and they "knew" him and he took the kids out without your knowledge, would you still be supportive of they "know us"? There are too many kids and parents coming and going for the staff to watch. It's better to just pop in and follow the rules. You aren't being singled out, they are protecting everyone's child. Usually the office is right by the doors you enter anyways, so I'd rather be safe then sorry.

In an instance like that, I do believe the schools would know who has custody. You have to fill out forms with the schools stating as such, and I do believe the teachers would know not to release the child to the non-custodial parent.

She's saying she's not allowed to the classroom even AFTER she checks in with the office. I'd have a big problem with that, too. Afterall, even though they are with the teacher, a parent is still the parent, and a teacher should never be allowed to usurp a parent's authority where their child is involved.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

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Ok, look at it this way - If you and your hubby/significant other were fighting and you were awarded custody, and your partner was not allowed visitation but he went to the school and they "knew" him and he took the kids out without your knowledge, would you still be supportive of they "know us"? There are too many kids and parents coming and going for the staff to watch. It's better to just pop in and follow the rules. You aren't being singled out, they are protecting everyone's child. Usually the office is right by the doors you enter anyways, so I'd rather be safe then sorry.

In an instance like that, I do believe the schools would know who has custody. You have to fill out forms with the schools stating as such, and I do believe the teachers would know not to release the child to the non-custodial parent.

She's saying she's not allowed to the classroom even AFTER she checks in with the office. I'd have a big problem with that, too. Afterall, even though they are with the teacher, a parent is still the parent, and a teacher should never be allowed to usurp a parent's authority where their child is involved.

Exactly

 

[PattiXmas]

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Ok, look at it this way - If you and your hubby/significant other were fighting and you were awarded custody, and your partner was not allowed visitation but he went to the school and they "knew" him and he took the kids out without your knowledge, would you still be supportive of they "know us"? There are too many kids and parents coming and going for the staff to watch. It's better to just pop in and follow the rules. You aren't being singled out, they are protecting everyone's child. Usually the office is right by the doors you enter anyways, so I'd rather be safe then sorry.

In an instance like that, I do believe the schools would know who has custody. You have to fill out forms with the schools stating as such, and I do believe the teachers would know not to release the child to the non-custodial parent.

She's saying she's not allowed to the classroom even AFTER she checks in with the office. I'd have a big problem with that, too. Afterall, even though they are with the teacher, a parent is still the parent, and a teacher should never be allowed to usurp a parent's authority where their child is involved.

And what if the paperwork hasn't been filed with the school yet regarding custodial and non-custodial? I guess living in the city has made me a bit jaded and I don't trust Joe Blow being allowed to walk in off the streets without going into the office. Again, safety is a big issue and with all the problems that schools have had in the past, I am very supportive of their steps towards protecting our children.

What if little Susie's mom comes in everyday, and interrupts learning time? I am sure that the schools would have a good reason for these rules, as they placed them for some reason. I would be upset if Susie's mom came in everyday and disrupted class time. It's not about your child, but everyone else's child as well. I would suggest if "Susie's" mom feels the need to be with her child at all times, maybe the public school system isn't for her and she should either look in to private or homeschooling. Education is there for all children, the schools need to be pro-active in their rules so that all children are safe and given the opportunity for the best education they can give, free of interruptions.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

The worst part of it its the only school in the district to have this policy,

 

[cjeanean]

Wow, the fact that the school would do that blows my mind! Kids at that age LOVE rewards, so wouldn't it be more productive to offer a nice little reward for the kids who were able to get their stuff signed???

I know my life is so hectic that I'm always forgetting stuff. It's the third day of school so I'm still okay putting the kids on the bus, but I'm dreading next week. I am not a morning person in any way shape or form!!!! I don't think it's very fair, and the kids who don't get their books signed for a very legitimate reason (parents works late, etc) or end up late suffer for it.

Our school gives stamps in the planners for the kids who get a signature, and after they get a certain number of stamps they get fake money to use to buy little things in the classroom. I don't mind that system at all, it's a reward system rather than a punishment system.

Talk to the school about the concerns. Maybe with enough voices something can get changed, but beware of the fact that when there's a policy (government or otherwise) that they don't want to change, they make it sound like you're the ONLY voice in the crowd complaining. They'll make it seem like NO OTHER parent has ever complained, even if EVERY parent has.

If they don't listen, there IS one other option: teach your kid how to forge your signature......

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

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In an instance like that, I do believe the schools would know who has custody. You have to fill out forms with the schools stating as such, and I do believe the teachers would know not to release the child to the non-custodial parent.

She's saying she's not allowed to the classroom even AFTER she checks in with the office. I'd have a big problem with that, too. Afterall, even though they are with the teacher, a parent is still the parent, and a teacher should never be allowed to usurp a parent's authority where their child is involved.

And what if the paperwork hasn't been filed with the school yet regarding custodial and non-custodial? I guess living in the city has made me a bit jaded and I don't trust Joe Blow being allowed to walk in off the streets without going into the office. Again, safety is a big issue and with all the problems that schools have had in the past, I am very supportive of their steps towards protecting our children.

What if little Susie's mom comes in everyday, and interrupts learning time? I am sure that the schools would have a good reason for these rules, as they placed them for some reason. I would be upset if Susie's mom came in everyday and disrupted class time. It's not about your child, but everyone else's child as well.

Also its after school so there is nothing to interup, there is no one in class but if I bring in chicks I can go anywhere I want with out any problem

 

[sparkles2307]

What kind of school does your kid go to? Of course, my puplic school experience is limisted to High school since I was homeschooled till 10th grade, but SILENT LUNCH?!? Gimme a break! My parents werent responsible for any of my "Strikes" when I was in school, I brought any trouble on myself.

 

[Whispering Winds]

I think this is like a safety net for the school system. I worked in a school cafeteria for 16 years, and some of those parents were a piece of work. Their kids would come to school with no socks, dirty coats, missing homework, and the parents could have cared less. I think schools have to implement this strike clause to try to make parents more accountable. The custody battles were a whole nuther' nightmare for the administrators. There would be a family fight, and more times than not, the winning parent would come in and scream the walls down about so-n-so not being alowed to pick up little Suzy or Billy . . .it was a mess.

I think its sad that a few bad parents make it harder on the good parents, but best thing you can do about signing the agenda, which has been in force here in my area for several years, is to sign it at as soon as they get in the house. Go through their back packs and check it all out. I have an 8 year old grandson that we adopted, have had him since he was 5 months old, and I started all over again with this. Luckily, its the same school system that I worked at and is still thought very highly of, and they really do their best to help me . . .but its hard. I don't work but one day a week, so its a little easier for me to get things done, but I do have great feelings of empathy for mothers especially who have to work all day or all night and then come home and deal with school requirements. You just have to implement a plan and stick to it.

 

[Camelot Farms]

LOL...Even my chicks were banished last year! I mean come on...who could boot a fuzzy butt?

I had offered my incubator and eggs to DD's class. Teacher accepted. I had pre-cooked the eggs for 2 weeks so they wouldnt have to wait so long for the hatching. I know how impatient kids can be.

Well, the 1st chick hatched and of course started to peep....and peep...and peep some more. DD calls me from school 'you have got to come get the incubator right now.' 'Mrs. _____ wants it out.' I tell her I will come in about an hour...am still in jammies having a lazy day. 'She starts to cry 'no. mommy. right now. Mrs. _____ is mad.' Okay, run a brush through hair, throw on clothes and drive to school.

Incubator is unplugged and outside the classroom. Mrs. ____ greets me with 'Apparently the children CANNOT handle the chicks in the classroom'. Turning to them she says in her mean voice 'The chicks were for learning NOT for laughing'.

OUCH.

I guess that when the chick would start peeping, the children would giggle and those closest to the bator would stretch and cran and contort to try to see in the window. Got a visual of that? lol

So, me and my fuzzy butts were thrown out of 2nd grade.

In Mrs. _____ defense, she has probably never seen a real chicken in her life and had no idea that they would peep incessantly at least until another one hatched and they had a buddy.

I just wish that she could have turned it into a learning experience about chickens and hatching rather than about how to sit quietly and ignore the cute little peeper in the box...

 

[Camelot Farms]

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A public county school in a relatively rural area.