School Policy...*(&^&%!!!!!

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IMO, that teacher didn't have much classroom control, and if she had handled those peeps the right way, the kids would have been in awe and the giggles would have stopped. Our new principal was the third grade teacher for several years, and she always had a small inculbator and hatched, and the kids were just delighted over those chicks, and someone always was able to take them home. . .that is too bad. Hope the year went fast.
 
What is the punishment for a strike? I think the if the "punishment" reflexes the "crime" then that is good. I think its about teaching the child responsiblity as well. It's up to the child to make sure that they get a parent to sign etc.
 
Oh, my kids will be going to a small-town school as well and they have some custom-made rules but nothing as severe as strike sheets! I'd say we are blessed in our town to have a 90% "good" parent population and only a very few children have those parents that dont care... and those ones are nipped in the bud by school counselors bringing the parents in after school. We have extremely involved parents for the most part and its such a small town that the school has no activites on Wednesdays so that the kids can go to church Wednesday nights. I know we are lucky to be in a community like that, and THAT is a big reason for why we dont have things like "strike sheets".
 
I know i am gonna get a whole wack of hate mail but here goes anyway
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My DS has learning issues, he learns differently.. he is not a cookie cutter kid.

he was so stressed every night about home work that he had an ulcer at 10.

thats when I said enough! NO MORE HOMEWORK!!!!!! if he cant get his work done at school o well

what am I paying the teachers to do anyway? coffee breaks and PA days?..

as soon as I as a parent allowed my child to stop worrying about homework and to start being a care free kid life was a lot better all over.

all of a sudden there was no more stress in the house, he started enjoying sports again.

they dont fail the kids anymore if they fall behind or if they dont do their homework so why stress them?

Now he will be starting grade 7 this year and I have told him that he needs to start to be more responsible and homework will be part of his day BUT not all evening he is 12 he still needs to be a kid


(let the flogging begin)
 
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When I was in 6th grade we had a teacher who used a strike system. His class was horrible. He was very focused on punishment and negativity. Anther teacher in high school had something similar. She was actually a horrible nasty person. Caught her giving another student with the same answers as me a much higher grade.
 
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You're right. If you ever read any of Ruby Payne's work on poverty and education, you'll find that school culture often correlates directly to the socioeconomic status of the majority of students that attend the school.

Schools where most of the kids come from wealthy families often have more relaxed rules and have lots of collaborative assignments and large projects that teach skills like leadership, innovation and decision-making. Schools where most of the kids come from poverty are more likely to have lots of rules and not a lot of collaboration in the classroom (kids are more likely to use workbooks that they work on by themselves silently, especially at the high school level).

There are a lot of reasons why this occurs. One reason is because kids who come from wealthy families come from the culture of privilege and have already been taught many of the skills they need for collaboration and leadership by watching their parents' example. The teachers can give the kids an assignment and away they will go to get it done. They don't need a lot of hand-holding, usually, because they already know the "rules" for behavior and expectations in a school setting and adapt naturally to school. They grew up with these things.

The "hidden rules" of social class are things that people are not aware of unless the "rules" are explained to them explicitly.

I think that's why teachers (who are mostly middle or upper middle class), spend a lot of time teaching school rules to kids who are middle class or in poverty. Kids from poverty don't necessarily know how to behave in the "middle class" setting of a school because they only know the rules of the culture of poverty. For example, one of the rules of poverty (from Ruby Payne's book) is enjoying and valuing the "here and now" rather than planning for the future because in poverty, the future is uncertain. Kids from poverty don't always know how to plan ahead because they've never seen their parents do it. Using an agenda book or planner is foreign to them.

If you're interested in how this all works, go read Ruby Payne's book. She spent years doing research on how social class affects us. It's really interesting!

That's pretty interesting. I agree with another poster that at the elementary age, prizes and affirmation would go further than punishments.

When I was a freshman in high school, I had braces. My mom worked, but made up her own schedule. She went in when she wanted to and left when she wanted to. She would always schedule my orthodontist appointments for the morning, despite me asking her to do it later in the day. My PE class was during the first half of the day and every absence lowered my grade. It didn't matter if the absence was excused and beyond my control, the teachers didn't care. When I brought home my progress report with an F in PE, my parents had a fit and grounded me. I had told them early on what happened when I was absent, but they didn't care until I got my grades. My mother still refused to schedule later appointments. I ended up having to run miles for lunch to get my grade back and keep it at an A.
 
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The punishment has several levels...silent lunch, detention etc.

I cant agree that any 8 year old is responsible to make an adult do anything. What if adult happens to be an abusive parent or an addict? How smart is it for that child to start pestering the parent 'sign this, sign this mommy.' I gotta have this signed' That is an outcome that I prefer not to envision.

My whole problem with this strike system is that it put the accountability on the wrong person. If the school wants the assignment book signed by the parent then its the parent who is responsible, not the child so why punish the child with silent lunch or detention? That just seems cruel when you consider which children are most likely getting the strikes for not having the stuff signed...
 
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alright flogging begins............

I completely 100% agree, school is for emotional growth and stablity, along with reading and writing. You have to do what you feel is right and what your child is emotionally and phsically able to handle!!!!

GREAT JOB! I would have done the same dang thing.
 
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Ouch.
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Most of us work extremely hard.

Luckily, I've got thick skin. Comments like this aren't anything we're not used to hearing.
 
LOL MJSDHS. I would have done the same thing!

Although I live the other side of the No Child Left Behind policy. I have a teenage DS who KNOWS that he can slack and not do his work because they wont fail him or hold him back thanks to the NCLB policy.

Schools dont want a bad report card and who can blame them, so they do everything that they can to give kids a bump up in the grades department. At least here in my area...dont want to speak for anyone else.

I repeatedly asked for DS to be held back in 8th grade because he had failed 3 of the 5 core classes. I was told 'Sorry we dont do that' As long as he is passing 2 of the 5, we HAVE to move him up.

So give him permission to be a Juvenile Deliquent why dont ya...tongue in cheek...lol.

Its so hard to find a system that works for the majority and I do appreciate many of the things that our schools do for our children.

Sometimes I let my fairness disease get the best of me. I want the world to be fair and just, particularly for children and it just isnt.

But, that wont stop me from trying.
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