sebright thread

[Nelson-90]

I am new to this thread. I have 2 hatchery sebrights that I bought at TSC. They are 20 weeks old. I have one girl and one boy. My question is, has anyone had thier rooster start to become mean? Ours used to be just fine then he started attacking people. Now my kids won't go in our chicken run to handle any of our other chickens. He has also come after me as well. Now my 11 year old daughter closes them up at night and goes into the coop and picks him up and holds him. He doesn't really like it much but he lets her. Of course it is her rooster too. Could it be just his age or am I going to have to cull him? I was hoping to let him breed with his little lady sebright but not if this keeps going. Although I do have a little cochin who is sitting on some of her eggs and some of our little sebrights eggs.

Our little rooster.
Our little girl.

beautifull bird mine was fine and form one day to another started attacking me everytime i put mmy hand in his cage at first i thougt it was cause of the gloves i use to work in the coop but one day i put my bare han and got a couple of pecks and like 500 kicks the girl is fine but he is just mean it migth come with age but if you dont want that to happen and not have to cull him just make a cage for the both sebrigth that should cool things down around the run... also since day one i got him he went kung fu chicken on my other roosters witch are 3 times his size and i had to get him off another rooster so yeah they are fisty little guys its what we call little big man syndrome... good luck with him

 

[TAMMACLEAN]

beautifull bird mine was fine and form one day to another started attacking me everytime i put mmy hand in his cage at first i thougt it was cause of the gloves i use to work in the coop but one day i put my bare han and got a couple of pecks and like 500 kicks the girl is fine but he is just mean it migth come with age but if you dont want that to happen and not have to cull him just make a cage for the both sebrigth that should cool things down around the run... also since day one i got him he went kung fu chicken on my other roosters witch are 3 times his size and i had to get him off another rooster so yeah they are fisty little guys its what we call little big man syndrome... good luck with him

Thanks. We are going to make another coop for hime and the other chickens the same age. We have a few chickens that are younger that just have always been picked on. He used to be nice.But maybe with my daughter handleing him he will get better. At least maybe ignore us anyway.

 

[dsfrango]

The standard of perfection is one thing, and a competition is another thing. do they ever withhold prizes cause there are no perfect birds in the competition?.
Have you ever seen a perfect bird?
the judges are there to utilize their opinion, who wins is their choice, they chose to give her a blue ribbon i think it is awesome...

The standard of perfection ISSSSS what the judging is based off of. Thats why there is "BEST OF BREED" and BEST OF SHOW. As Erinszoo said, there were other birds with the correct comb. I wouldnt expect prizes to be withheld because of no perfect birds but given to the closest to that perfect standard. Judges are NOT there to state their opinion or personal choice. Its a choice based upon set guidelines. Thats why there are point deductions and set disqualifications.

Im still happy for Erinszoo that she won. Dont get me wrong, its always fun to win at a show. Maybe this will be motivation to breed more and try to make them better quality

 

[Year of the Rooster]

Quote: I guess I should elaborate more about our county fair. OUR county fair has always been judged by the standards that the American Poultry Association has set, and all judging follows the APA Standard of Perfection, except in the cases of production hen and broiler classes. There were DOZENS of birds that were better representatives of their breeds that would have made excellent candidates for the Grand Champion Pen. There were several other pairs of OEGB that had just as good type as the pair that won, and these ones were actually dubbed. I don't know if judges withold prizes if there are no birds worthy of placing, however if there is one with an automatic disqualification according to the APA, then it certainly does not deserve Grand Champion. Yeah, sure it's nice that the girl won with her birds, but what does that teach her? What did she learn from it? I would honestly rather be placed according to what my birds are rather than being mislead and thinking they're something they're not. I'd feel sorry for the girl if she thought her birds were so good as to show them in a REAL sanctioned show, only to have her hopes crushed because they were disqualified. This judge knew plenty about judging production characteristics and FFA poultry judging. What she didn't know was how to judge the "fancy" breeds. Yes, some of those productions characteristics do apply even to the fancy breeds, such as the pelvic width and distance from pelvic bones to keel, but there is plenty more to that with these breeds.

 

[4hchickmama]

I guess I should elaborate more about our county fair. OUR county fair has always been judged by the standards that the American Poultry Association has set, and all judging follows the APA Standard of Perfection, except in the cases of production hen and broiler classes. There were DOZENS of birds that were better representatives of their breeds that would have made excellent candidates for the Grand Champion Pen. There were several other pairs of OEGB that had just as good type as the pair that won, and these ones were actually dubbed. I don't know if judges withold prizes if there are no birds worthy of placing, however if there is one with an automatic disqualification according to the APA, then it certainly does not deserve Grand Champion. Yeah, sure it's nice that the girl won with her birds, but what does that teach her? What did she learn from it? I would honestly rather be placed according to what my birds are rather than being mislead and thinking they're something they're not. I'd feel sorry for the girl if she thought her birds were so good as to show them in a REAL sanctioned show, only to have her hopes crushed because they were disqualified. This judge knew plenty about judging production characteristics and FFA poultry judging. What she didn't know was how to judge the "fancy" breeds. Yes, some of those productions characteristics do apply even to the fancy breeds, such as the pelvic width and distance from pelvic bones to keel, but there is plenty more to that with these breeds.

Perhaps he was a cockerel? A bird under a year is allowed to be shown undubbed in OEGBs

 

[FarmGirl01]

A county fair is real different from a APA or an ABA show. It seems that a county fair is leaning more to the production side of livestock and poultry, as I beleive it should be.
Any OEGB male bird has to be dubbed after November 1st, of the year he was hatched.
It always feels good to recieve a ribbon. Conjrats.

 

[Year of the Rooster]

Quote: If he was indeed a cockerel, and not a cock, then there was no way of knowing. Our classes are not divided up into pullet, cockerel, hen, and cock. They consist of a Pen of Two Pullets (either bantam or standard), Pen of Two Hens (bantam or standard), Pen of Two Fancy (1 male, 1 female. bantam or standard). Bantams only competed against bantams, and Standards against Standards (though technically they should be called Large Fowl...), except in the the run for Grand Champion Pen. The only birds that would have had their age known were the pullets. And I highly doubt that the judge had any idea to ask the age of the OEGB.

 

[4hchickmama]

A county fair is real different from a APA or an ABA show. It seems that a county fair is leaning more to the production side of livestock and poultry, as I beleive it should be.
Any OEGB male bird has to be dubbed after November 1st, of the year he was hatched.
It always feels good to recieve a ribbon. Conjrats.

That is much clearer than my explaination...lol. I knew there was some leeway, but I wasn't sure of the exact rules on dubbing and cockerels.

 

[Year of the Rooster]

I hope my raging terror didn't scare off everyone...

 

[FarmGirl01]

You didn't scare me. LOL