Self-Blue Cochin Bantams

[Majestic Lane Poultry]

They are light, but they look more self-blue than porcelain to me

 

[CrazyWestTexasFarmGirl]

Self blue question...
Blue crossed with self blue(lavender)
What woudl you get...

I have a hen I got that looks like these.... all the hens looked like these and their babies did too. Absuletely no splashes or blacks on the property...... The roos that he had were a silver laced and a a dark blue. If they are throwing non splash babies bred to silver laced or the dark blue(guessing the blue is the daddy...) .... would that make them lavender and the blue a lavender split? I think this is a pretty closed flock that has some inbreeding.... If they are not producing splashes would that make them lavender???

 

[cochinman2005]

None of the combos you spoke about would produce Self-Blue (lavender) genetically. If the sire was a real dark blue, and the dam a really light blue it's conceivable that your could get all light blue evenly shaded birds. Self-Blue is wholly different set of genes from Blues and unless you introduce self-blue you can't produce it from regular blues.

 

[cochinman2005]

Self blue question...
Blue crossed with self blue(lavender)
What woudl you get...

Didn't answer the original question. Blue X Self-Blue. f1 would be 50% Self-Blue split to Blue and 50% Self Blue split to Black. That's using a Blue male. If you had a Self-Blue male and bred it to a Blue female all f1 would be Self Blue split to Black, that is, they would all be black (phenotype).​

 

[CrazyWestTexasFarmGirl]

Can a "regular" blue be a lavender carrier.. ie recessive? is that what the "split" term mean? Im used to colors in rabbits and am still learning chickens...
The "looks lavender" hens i mentioned are older than the blue rooo.... is it possible that he is the offspring of a lavender and could be a lavender carrier and produce lavender when crossed back to the lavender hen(mother etc?)

The roo in question is dark blue.. but noticably blue... has the blue lacing look to his feathers. All the blue hens were identical purplish pale blue no lacing at all. They are a very very closed flock is why I wondered.... if he could be the offspring of one of the lavender hens... and procude lavender crossed back to them...

 

[cochinman2005]

A regular Blue could be a lavender carrier if the female parent was a Self-Blue (lavender) (i.e. Blue X Self Blue = 50% Self Blue split to Blue (Blue phenotype)). "Split" the way I am using it means that we've split the genotype between self-blue and whatever other color was used (Black or Blue etc). So if this Blue male is indeed a Self-Blue split, then bred back to a self-blue hens would produce some self-blues. Also regular blues split to self-blue and Black splits. Can you provide some pics? Did you handle the females? What color were the underside of the shafts of their wing feathers?

 

[La Unica Farms]

Does anyone have any Lavender Cochin chicks or eggs they would be willing to sell?? I have searched everywhere and can't find any. I would really like to try for Lavender Mottleds and I already have a nice group of well typed mottleds to work with. I also have some nice blacks to breed in better type. I simply needs some Lavenders. I don't need a lot of eggs, at this point I will take whatever I can get. Can anyone help me out. Please...

 

[cochinman2005]

Nothing at this time. I may have some f4 Self-Blue adults in the fall of 2011. Still a work in progress.

 

[CrazyWestTexasFarmGirl]

I actually bought one of the females because of her color.
I will try to catch her and take pics after our heatwave is over....
supposed to hit 105 here today and I dont want to stress them out any more than they already will be.
I was really suprised not to see any splashes in his flock... all 5 of the blue/lav hens were the same identical lavenderish blue color, solid clear no splotching of color... etc... the roo was an obvious blue of the BBS variety.

His flock had red, "blue(lav?), and silver laced(nice...)
i bought a red, the blue(lav) and 2 silver laced hens and 3 babies that are silver laced I think.

 

[CrazyWestTexasFarmGirl]

heres the girl... shes pretty roughed up... Im hoping her feathers will come back in.
All of his "blue" hens were identical to this one... I couldnt tell them apart...