Cetawin
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Show them as what intent? An Orp? No way they would be DQd for body type alone. They cannot stand up to a proper American Orp, hands down they would lose. I would stand a better chance putting my roo with bleed through in a show and winning BV than the odds on a Lav Orp against any variety American Orp.
The Frankfort poultry show held in KY each year is loaded with breeder birds that put most backyard orps to shame...I was in awe od the size, type and perfection being shown...I cannot see a project standing up to them, I just can't.
The reason I am questioning so much is that I like the lavenders but I do not like the way they look just standing and walking around. I wish I had the facilities to work on the lav project but I do not, I am working on my BBS but even they are much larger and correct type than the lavs are yet . Is that what you would want because they will show poorly...I think showing them prematurely is a bad move for any progress towards a standard...is that what you want a judge evaluating for a new variety...something that cannot meet type? Seems like taking a few steps further away from a standard than towards it. At least from my perspective.
I find that funny. I've taken Best & Reserve English with Split Orps.
If the breeder is actually working on them, they look quite Orpy indeed. Unfortunately, many who have acquired them are not working on perfecting them.
Oh I agree....I have seen splits (because I know the owner) take BB and BV. LOL A black orp is a black orp to most folks.
And Jimstand...I was not being argumentative and believe it or not I do care...I think there should be a standard so there is something to breed to...in any bird not just the lav orps. My post was referring to prematurely showing without a standard in comparison to an american orp. It has happened with horses more times than I can count and it slows the entire process of getting standards set. And if ya think 5 yrs, 5 people and 50 birds is bad....try doubling that with a near year gestation and single births. Nightmare.
Show them as what intent? An Orp? No way they would be DQd for body type alone. They cannot stand up to a proper American Orp, hands down they would lose. I would stand a better chance putting my roo with bleed through in a show and winning BV than the odds on a Lav Orp against any variety American Orp.
The Frankfort poultry show held in KY each year is loaded with breeder birds that put most backyard orps to shame...I was in awe od the size, type and perfection being shown...I cannot see a project standing up to them, I just can't.
The reason I am questioning so much is that I like the lavenders but I do not like the way they look just standing and walking around. I wish I had the facilities to work on the lav project but I do not, I am working on my BBS but even they are much larger and correct type than the lavs are yet . Is that what you would want because they will show poorly...I think showing them prematurely is a bad move for any progress towards a standard...is that what you want a judge evaluating for a new variety...something that cannot meet type? Seems like taking a few steps further away from a standard than towards it. At least from my perspective.
I find that funny. I've taken Best & Reserve English with Split Orps.
If the breeder is actually working on them, they look quite Orpy indeed. Unfortunately, many who have acquired them are not working on perfecting them.
Oh I agree....I have seen splits (because I know the owner) take BB and BV. LOL A black orp is a black orp to most folks.
And Jimstand...I was not being argumentative and believe it or not I do care...I think there should be a standard so there is something to breed to...in any bird not just the lav orps. My post was referring to prematurely showing without a standard in comparison to an american orp. It has happened with horses more times than I can count and it slows the entire process of getting standards set. And if ya think 5 yrs, 5 people and 50 birds is bad....try doubling that with a near year gestation and single births. Nightmare.
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