Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Not at this point. I think it is a goal of serious porcelain silkie breeders that it eventually match the appearance and genetic makeup of porcelains in other breeds.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Oh my. not a fun thing I know. Sorry to hear that, work on it you'll get it done

Every once in a while I pick up a tidbit here and there on this thread. I have a gorgeous porcelain (project) silkie...too young to sex. I have a lavender and 2 buff silkies (potential show quality)...all still young, but I'm leaning towards pullets. I am hoping the porcelain is a roo.

When I think of ''silkie''porcelain/self blue apricot I think of a melanized buff columbian- Golden lakenvelder/vorkwerk) 2 does lavender. Frankly to be honest it never dawned on me until last winter that is what they are (for me) when I started another project using them which a great man has already accomplished overseas, just not in a silkie. so this is what I see. take a look at the ones that are actually right (silkies porc/SBA's) and put the color back in black head, hackles, primaries, tail and add buff to the rest.
I don't claim to be an expert in genetics. I try only to speak on what I know as far as actual results for me.

Also, as far as the genetics issue, does this porcelain translate to other breeds? By using the same color cross breeding?

Silkie porcelain is not as described in the poultry standard for the variety.
For me I see a true porcelain on a silkie being a muddy looking bird. Take a look a silkie partridge. Where do you see pencilling on them? where ever you have feather barbing. shoulders, wings foot feathers, etc.
The actual color is not easy to maintain on a hard feathered bird for exhibition mix in shredding and how is one to judge or determine actual proper placement of the Flowering/motts?
Being an artisit, I try and imagine it visually. messy. And I think actually it had been tried by some breeders and the result was that they were muddy.
Again its just my opinion...... I mean no disrespect to readers​

Do you have a link or photos?​

 

[friedeggs]

That is for sure. They are not white. It is difficult to tell they are Pearl, unless you have them next to another bird that is actually white. They stick out like a sore thumb in a flock of whites. I'm glad you saw one in the sun at the show because they really do illuminate a spectrum of color in the sun. Friedeggs is going to do a little test breeding with this color and perhaps this will give us an insight to just what is going on here.

Mrs McCormick and how are we today? Im soooooo glad your onLOL.....
Yep gonna a see how they react to a Melvin first

Hi Tammy

Gilda, as you know, I don't do WHITE birds but technically Pearl is not WHITE!

Darn it !you found out........ Im not not white fan either, though I have one of Donna's whites here and I just love love love her to death. Awesome personality to her

Suze, link for what?
silkie porcelains (proper variety) is so, no. Might try and goodle it, its been a couple of years. I think it was from the coop, but do not remember for sure.​

 

[BetsyOK]

My lovely "silver white" showgirl looks very much like this pearl. I'm confused about the silver whites and would appreciate some input. She has just hatched two beautiful "pearl" or "silver white" silkie babes from a gorgeous GM blue partridge roo. Both have correct feet and very high vaulted skulls.

This was a mistake, as I thought he was sterile or nearly sterile and wasn't careful about keeping her in her own pen next door--there's no roo in her pen. I also didn't expect these eggs to hatch, and let her brood them when she rushed into the pen (I didn't know at least two of them were hers). She has also hatched a lovely blue partridge babe with a golden cast--one of his hens is a really nice partridge from JF. He now has four babes, after three hatching (two didn't survive) September 16 (the survivor is developing into a nice blue partridge); there being NOT ONE fertile egg previously in the two years I've had him.

I definitely plan to keep these two babes, as they should be beautiful and are especially precious, having come from him. But, I don't really know what to do with them when they mature.

 

[friedeggs]

BetsyOK

My lovely "silver white" showgirl looks very much like this pearl. I'm confused about the silver whites and would appreciate some input. She has just hatched two beautiful "pearl" or "silver white" silkie babes from a gorgeous GM blue partridge roo. Both have correct feet and very high vaulted skulls.

wow! do you have pics?​

 

[friedeggs]

already accomplished overseas, just not in a silkie. so this is what I see. take a look at the ones that are actually right (silkies porc/SBA's)

this was highlighted is this what you mean Suze?​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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this was highlighted is this what you mean Suze?

Yes.

 

[friedeggs]

the birds Im using for the other color project? Can you clarify a little more. Or what the other color project is?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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When I think of ''silkie''porcelain/self blue apricot I think of a melanized buff columbian- Golden lakenvelder/vorkwerk) 2 does lavender. Frankly to be honest it never dawned on me until last winter that is what they are (for me) when I started another project using them which a great man has already accomplished overseas, just not in a silkie. so this is what I see. take a look at the ones that are actually right (silkies porc/SBA's) and put the color back in black head, hackles, primaries, tail and add buff to the rest.
I don't claim to be an expert in genetics. I try only to speak on what I know as far as actual results for me.

Now I'm confused. What is the project in non-silkies that has already been accomplished overseas? I guess I am trying to get a visual of what you are striving for.​

 

[friedeggs]

Ok. think quicker than I can type
It didn't dawn on me that a lavender diluted vorwerk/g lakenvelder coloring and pattern is what I was actually trying to strive for in my own porcelain project. I was just automatically working towards them on my own, porcelains. Until I started on trying to make palomino silkies. Because I tend to think visually and not left brained i took me a while before the lightbulb went on. So,,,,, Henks OUTSTANDING white patterned vorwerks. And they, Henks birds are stunning.
did I make any sense?