Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[BetsyOK]

I just took pics of the three babes in question; the two "pearl" or "silver whites" and the blue partridge with the golden cast. They range from two to four days old. I have a problem in that I have a glitch somewhere in my system (probably resulting from too many server changes) that won't let me send pics. I keep putting off trying to get it resolved, mostly because I get so frustrated when dealing with the computer gurus for my server. I will have these pics with me at the Shawnee, OK, show in December. Might you possibly be there? I'll try to get myself motivated to get this glitch taken care of in the meantime.

 

[GypsyChic]

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A lot of folks are calling anything that apppears to have blue and buff colouring porcelain, or anything that might have lavender bred into the line at some point. I will not argue that the birds are not pretty, but there is a lot that is called porcelain that is not, and that is discounting that porcelain silkies do not have mottle.

Then there are a lot of people who breed silkies who make up all sorts of colour names for birds. There is nothing wrong with a mixed colour bird; it has its purpose if it pleases its owner or purchaser. And I will say that I do attach variety names to birds, but I do try to match the name I use to the genes the bird carries.

If I purchased silkie porcelain chicks or eggs, I would ABSOLUTELY expect them to carry two copies of lavender, and have all the correct genes for porcelain except mottle. I would be VERY unhappy if they did not show proper lavender dilution of both colours.

Well this is exactly WHY I requested the input of the genetic pro's. I'm upset for paying so much not getting a single chick from those eggs that were true to the ad. I dont really want to give a name, I'm not really thrilled since I've spent 2yrs already trying to aquire quality birds/stock for my program. Back to square one, I guess

 

[friedeggs]

I have a problem in that I have a glitch somewhere in my system (probably resulting from too many server changes) that won't let me send pics. I keep putting off trying to get it resolved, mostly because I get so frustrated when dealing with the computer gurus for my server. I will have these pics with me at the Shawnee, OK, show in December. Might you possibly be there? I'll try to get myself motivated to get this glitch taken care of in the meantime.

So it will not let you uplaod to a site like photobucket?

I ordered lav, porc and buff/black split eggs. I have nothing to show for it other than a bunch of mixed up jumbled color chicks, most of which are BLUE. Gosh, what I'd do to have hatched something other than colors I supose I already have. Will ANYONE be selling eggs, chicks or started birds? This sets my entire program back about 6mos to a year, if not longer. I'm not thrilled in the least Especially since I've spend 2yrs already trying to aquire quality birds/stock for my program. Back to square one, I guess

hmmm. even getting lavenders with chipmunk stripes aren't pure. Maybe going to self blue cochins to what your sure is a real black and start that way, if you want to build something your sure of?
Just a thought​

 

[Darling Farms]

I posted this before... going to post it again

I think two very important questions to ask privately before buying any stock (eggs or chickens) are:


~ Where did your stock come from?

~ What colors did you use to achieve your results?


Then the questions that you ask of the breeder you are considering buying from should be asked again of the breeder that they got their stock from.


The second question is very important with Lavenders and Isobel Porcelains.

For Lavender birds... if the breeder has used anything other than blacks and lavenders... IT WILL SHOW UP AND CAUSE PROBLEMS LATER.

For Isobel birds... If the breeder has used anything other than buffs and lavenders... YOUR RESULTS WILL NOT BE PREDICTABLE.

(Not capitalizing to yell... just make a clear point )


Please ask these questions so you know what you are getting.


All of that being said... it all depends on what you are wanting to do with your breeding program. Some people WANT to mix their lavenders with BBS or who knows what. This is GREAT! People should have fun with the things that they enjoy. I think we should all just be clear with each other. We should strive to be responsible buyers and sellers! Some people may want less expensive birds and take a longer route to getting their desired results. That should be encouraged and applauded... as long as they are clear about what their goals are. Lavender birds can be rather expensive and when people don't get exactly what they are thinking they are getting it can be upsetting. When you charge a pretty penny (or even a small fee) for a bird I think you have a responsibility to be as forthcoming as possible with your buyer! They should know what they are paying for and it should be worth it!

I would like to encourage lavender silkie breeders to ask these questions of themselves... what ever the answer! Where did your stock came from? What you are breeding currently? What are you goals in your breeding program? This would help us all to organize our thoughts and be able to convey to potential buyers.

 

[friedeggs]

For Lavender birds... if the breeder has used anything other than blacks and lavenders... IT WILL SHOW UP AND CAUSE PROBLEMS LATER.

Respectfully,you can have lavenders and they can carry a pattern gene. IMO, unless your breeding what you hatched one may not know.

For Isobel birds... If the breeder has used anything other than buffs and lavenders... YOUR RESULTS WILL NOT BE PREDICTABLE.

There are buffs out there that one may not be able to tell carries blue. and ?, possibly more.

All of that being said... it all depends on what you are wanting to do with your breeding program. Some people WANT to mix their lavenders with BBS or who knows what. This is GREAT! People should have fun with the things that they enjoy. I think we should all just be clear with each other. We should strive to be responsible buyers and sellers! Some people may want less expensive birds and take a longer route to getting their desired results. That should be encouraged and applauded... as long as they are clear about what their goals are. Lavender birds can be rather expensive and when people don't get exactly what they are thinking they are getting it can be upsetting. When you charge a pretty penny (or even a small fee) for a bird I think you have a responsibility to be as forthcoming as possible with your buyer! They should know what they are paying for and it should be worth it!

I agree​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Questions to ask the seller:

How were your birds penned? As in which colours are penned together.

Were the eggs supposed to be pure lavender? Porcelain (pure for lavender)? Buff split to lavender? And black split to lavender?

Pure lavender birds should show lavender. If they are also blue, it is not possible to tell that they are pure lavender. Assuming they are pure for lavender, bred to a black carrynig lavender, you will get a percentage of pure lavender.

What was the breeder's goals? IMO, selling eggs or chicks that are not pure needs to be very selective: either sell as pet quality or to those who can carry on a good breeding conversation with you so that you know that the goals of the purchaser are met or are at least satisfactory with the eggs or birds supplied.

 

[GypsyChic]

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Questions to ask the seller:

How were your birds penned? As in which colours are penned together.

Were the eggs supposed to be pure lavender? Porcelain (pure for lavender)? Buff split to lavender? And black split to lavender?

if I understand it correctly, seller advertised the eggs as lavender, porc, isob, with buff split to lavender and black split to lavender, and a couple other "Splits".

 

[silkieluver_07]

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She was in the sunlight at the Frederick show and I wanted to take her home.

Gilda, as you know, I don't do WHITE birds but technically Pearl is not WHITE!

Same here Tammy! Here I foundout Josh hatched three whites from Kelar on here

 

[friedeggs]

 

[bacres]

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She was in the sunlight at the Frederick show and I wanted to take her home.

Gilda, as you know, I don't do WHITE birds but technically Pearl is not WHITE!

Same here Tammy! Here I foundout Josh hatched three whites from Kelar on here

Hannah, Ashley hatched two of them and they look nice! When is Josh going to post pics!