Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[totallytang]

So wait you can’t show a lavender silkie in an APA show? I recently bought one from an APA breeder that was recommended by a friend who had bought show birds from them before… no one ever told me I couldn’t show it! they knew I wanted show quality birds to show in APA SHOWS… they even went over all the things a judge would look for in a silkie so I would know when I went to show my birds. Now I’m really disappointed. I mean she is beautiful, but I can’t show her? I wish someone had mentioned that to me… maybe they thought i knew this... but i didnt... i have only raised whites before... i feel dumb i should have asked... i should have stuck to whites, thats what i went there for in the first place.

 

[brenTx]

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I didn't go back very far on this but you CAN SHOW lavender, recognized into both APA and ABA standards now. Beareded self blue are recoginized, not nonbearded but bearded. I hope that makes you feel better?

The qualifying judge, Jamie Matts, recommended that the self-blues be added to the standard, and after the regular APA meeting, the Standard Committee also recommended approval. The Board voted, and the bearded self-blue silkies were added to the standard. That designation starts as of the vote by the Board, so if you show a Brd. Self Blue Silkie next week at some show, it will be as an officially recognized breed/variety. You might have to furnish the Standard for the judge and let him or her know they passed the qualifying meet, but they have official standing now. The qualifying meet was held at the APA National show on 12/11/10.

 

[chickendales]

 

[totallytang]

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I didn't go back very far on this but you CAN SHOW lavender, recognized into both APA and ABA standards now. Beareded self blue are recoginized, not nonbearded but bearded. I hope that makes you feel better?

The qualifying judge, Jamie Matts, recommended that the self-blues be added to the standard, and after the regular APA meeting, the Standard Committee also recommended approval. The Board voted, and the bearded self-blue silkies were added to the standard. That designation starts as of the vote by the Board, so if you show a Brd. Self Blue Silkie next week at some show, it will be as an officially recognized breed/variety. You might have to furnish the Standard for the judge and let him or her know they passed the qualifying meet, but they have official standing now. The qualifying meet was held at the APA National show on 12/11/10.

Oh okay thanks : ) some peoples were saying they were not a recognized color… and when I looked up a list of recognized colors they weren’t on it… so I thought maybe you couldn’t… I do feel better now because she is one of the nicest looking bearded lavender silkies I have seen for sale in a while and I thought I should get her even though I don’t breed them because I could at least show her.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I didn't go back very far on this but you CAN SHOW lavender, recognized into both APA and ABA standards now. Beareded self blue are recoginized, not nonbearded but bearded. I hope that makes you feel better?

The qualifying judge, Jamie Matts, recommended that the self-blues be added to the standard, and after the regular APA meeting, the Standard Committee also recommended approval. The Board voted, and the bearded self-blue silkies were added to the standard. That designation starts as of the vote by the Board, so if you show a Brd. Self Blue Silkie next week at some show, it will be as an officially recognized breed/variety. You might have to furnish the Standard for the judge and let him or her know they passed the qualifying meet, but they have official standing now. The qualifying meet was held at the APA National show on 12/11/10.

To further clarify, as of the evening of December 11th, 2010, bearded self-blue silkies were APA recognised. They received ABA recognition in March 2011 (don't have the exact date).

HOWEVER, a variety (or even a breed) does not have to be recognised to be shown; indeed it MUST be shown to achieve recognition. It simply cannot place above best of variety (or best of breed if the breed is unrecognised).

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I didn't go back very far on this but you CAN SHOW lavender, recognized into both APA and ABA standards now. Beareded self blue are recoginized, not nonbearded but bearded. I hope that makes you feel better?

The qualifying judge, Jamie Matts, recommended that the self-blues be added to the standard, and after the regular APA meeting, the Standard Committee also recommended approval. The Board voted, and the bearded self-blue silkies were added to the standard. That designation starts as of the vote by the Board, so if you show a Brd. Self Blue Silkie next week at some show, it will be as an officially recognized breed/variety. You might have to furnish the Standard for the judge and let him or her know they passed the qualifying meet, but they have official standing now. The qualifying meet was held at the APA National show on 12/11/10.

Oh okay thanks : ) some peoples were saying they were not a recognized color… and when I looked up a list of recognized colors they weren’t on it… so I thought maybe you couldn’t… I do feel better now because she is one of the nicest looking bearded lavender silkies I have seen for sale in a while and I thought I should get her even though I don’t breed them because I could at least show her.

If you look at any published standard, they will not be included because they were published before recognition. However, the information that they were recognised was printed in newsletters.

 

[brenTx]

Yes you can SHOW anything you want but those NOT in the accepted standards as of now, are entered as AOV, All Other Varieties.

 

[renovationmom]

I just hatched my first 6 eggs from my Black/Lavender spilt silkie pair. I understand I can get 25% Lavender chicks, but what colors will the remaining 75% be, and what % of the lavender Gene will these chicks carry, if they are not showing it? Hope someone can help me. Any idea what colors these are that I hatched?

Above is one of the six hatched, there is one more chick that looks just like this one.

Above, on left, is another one of the six hatched, four look like this one. They are almost 3 weeks old.

 

[brenTx]

Ok were both parents splits? Was any one of them a full lavender color? When breeding with one lavender you will get one gene in each offspring. Then breeding them back to a lavender will give you the 50% lavender and 50% black. If that is the what the split is? Now breeding two splits to each other with none being full lavender I am surprised you got that many lavender looking chicks from this hatch. Sonoran will pop in and give you the percentages of that mating. I am not even sure the offspring would all be carrying the lavender gene...hummm.

You are in Texas? I sure have some good lavender males needing a home if you are up around Fort Worth anytime this summer.

Always too many boys!

I thought on this a while and YES you should get 25% lavender. I never crossed splits rather I crossed what I refer to as mutts...LOL and I got 25% lavenders, 25% white and 50% black/mutts. I got whites since they were the orginal base for the lavender. Yours would need to go back to what yours were bred from.

 

[renovationmom]

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Hello Bren! You are well known and respected, so this is an honor for me. And you are here in Texas!
I do go to Granbury every couple of months-so I would not be far from you.

My Roo and Hen are both Lavender spilts. I have been having really bad hatch rates my last two hatches(2 out of 20), I was very discouraged. Then, this last hatch, 18 of 22 hatched- with some adjustments- and these 6 were from my spilt pair. I have not been able to bring myself to believe they are real, lol.