Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

So often the attempts via laws make a bigger mess.

Shipping asparagus from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere for example. Asparagus is among the top 20 vegetables eaten in both North America and Europe.

I did a research paper on this in college. The US government choose a new tactic in the war on drugs in the 1990s. They wanted to give the people living in Peru an alternative crop to raise instead of cocaine. So they paid to source, ship, and plant crowns of the most productive varieties of asparagus to the areas. Also provided and set up the latest cultivation, irregation, and harvesting equipment, processing facilities, transportation systems including an airport capable of shipping the crop. Also set up housing for the workers and training for all aspects of the industry.

It devastated US asparagus production. Among other reasons, few could do more than upgrade varieties or equipment a little at a time. It also barely, if at all, affected cocaine production because asparagus grows in a much different climate than cocaine. I'm not sure what it did to European producers but Europe was also a primary producer and is also a primary market.

A more current example is Lithium from Patagonia for the batteries required by nonrenewable energy.

Edit to add tax.
We still have our own asparagus producers in NL. I don’t know how its related. From ½ june till the start of april fresh asparagus is always imported, but not easily obtainable.

You are probably right that more laws often makes people upset/angry. Environmental taxes is probably a better solution for the international fuels (flying, shipping) .Taxes for oil/kerosine doesn't make just the asparagus from overseas way more expensive, but also the overseas feed for factory farming and luxury goods like flowers.

For the pollution we need something more to protect the people. Nowadays I see that the (higher) judges are taking this role more and more because our government isn’t capable of making the right decisions. The European government does more to protect the inhabitants and the nature in my country than our own government.

Bla bla tax coming up…
 
Interesting perspective. You're right that we are probably comparing things that shouldn't be. On the other hand one of the first very good advice almost always given on BYC to people who ask about coops, is to take into account their climate and local setting before deciding what will be the right coop for them.



I apologize if I sounded ironic or judgemental, english isn't my language and I guess what I write doesn't sound exactly like what I think. I sincerely admire what both of you are doing in your different ways, and I believe if more of us acted in accordance to our beliefs like you both do, things could get better. I'm just feeling totally despaired and angry and also guilty as to why our specie has such a tendency to do everything to destroy the world we live in. And I don't want to look at the splinter in my neighbor's eye, ignoring the log in mine 🙄.
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What a day, sounds like you all had quite the adventure ! I'm sure the chicks enjoyed it if not the adults.

Well, let's hope the bed makes it on time, by whatever means of transportation it intends to reach your place 😂. Nice that you have some visit of a chicken keeper friend. Maybe you'll tell us more about it.

Am I seeing an attempt at growing a few tomatoes ?

Preening mamma tax

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Mr Grumpy.
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He looks mad at the world.
 
And they're at ground level. I think she's got a lot of game-type genes in her background (Penedesenca). She's certainly breaking new ground here on living as nature intended.
This morning one of the mama’s cane out when I let the the layers free range. I can call them layers because even Ini Mini laid an egg yearerday. 😁

🐈 The neighbours young cat came along. And I was flabbergasted with what happened. Black attacked the cat flying after him to attack him once more. Even though the chicks were all safe in the run with the other 2 mamma’s.

Just a few photo’s of this morning for the bla bla.

Katrientje (bantam RIR)
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Shafow seekers in the main run.
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And foragers in the second run
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Interesting perspective. You're right that we are probably comparing things that shouldn't be. On the other hand one of the first very good advice almost always given on BYC to people who ask about coops, is to take into account their climate and local setting before deciding what will be the right coop for them
With my winter, I keep an 8x8 coop with roofed (& side-tarped in winter) run with extended fenced run outside that. My flock did NOT like to walk in snow at all, and the extra space helped them not be horribly bored all winter. They got cabbages, sunflower heads, and flock block type hanging things to help them stay busy.


As far as pollution goes, I wonder how bad fast food & convenience shops contribute to the amount of trash. We grow and hunt what we can, & I try to cook everything from scratch so we don’t create as much waste. There’s so many factors…
 
As far as pollution goes, I wonder how bad fast food & convenience shops contribute to the amount of trash. We grow and hunt what we can, & I try to cook everything from scratch so we don’t create as much waste. There’s so many factors
Over 40% of the food bought for consumption in the developed world (including grocery stores, restaurants, and food delivery services) ends up in the trash.

40%. That's almost half. Let's visualize that. Picture a restaurant full of people eating. Nearly half of what is on everyone's plate goes in the trash. Picture a grocery store and the shoppers leaving with their bags -- nearly half of that will end up in the trash.

"Food waste" is an enormous problem. And it's something that regular people -- consumers -- can actually do something about. Keep doing what you are doing! And compost everything else.
 
I'm 61. I have no children. The worst of what is (probably) to come will affect those who are younger than I. I hope I don't live to see it.

I don't know if what I do makes things better, but I do what I can to try to NOT make things worse.

On the last day of a biology class in college, the prof (normally an easy going, happy guy) was in a terrible mood, or so we thought. His last lecture was about what we were leaving for the next generation. His last statements were from what would be our children's and grand children's perspective.

SLAM of the hand on the lectern. "You knew! YOU KNEW! And you did (SLAM) nothing (SLAM) about it!"

You could have heard a pin drop.

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I apologize if I sounded ironic or judgemental, english isn't my language and I guess what I write doesn't sound exactly like what I think. I sincerely admire what both of you are doing in your different ways, and I believe if more of us acted in accordance to our beliefs like you both do, things could get better.
You didn't sound ironic or judgemental at all. And your English is great. Sometimes, I feel self-conscious about talking so much about ecology and forests and the problems with the food system, etc that I just want to show that "walk my talk" more often than not -- but not in a way that I'm trying to proselytize or covert anyone to a different way of life. It's just what I do and I'm not really attached to the idea that other people "should" do the same.
 

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