Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Perris]

And so now, metaphorically, humans will follow the flora, fauna, and the rest to higher elevations and higher latitudes in order to find the conditions in which farming specifically can thrive. We have the advantage of easier travel from one area to another than most other organisms, but we'll still need to compete with those already in the new areas (current residents, land devoted to factories, best access to transportation and waterways) in order to keep growing the same crops.

It will take some intensive planning and maybe zoning to ensure that land can be available for agricultural development in currently non-agricultural areas in your north and west, while still preserving the rights of current residents and businesses to continue.

Climate migration at a micro level, here we are.

but humans are not like other animals or life-forms; many if not most humans today do not grow or find their own food, and only that tiny proportion, relatively speaking, that are food growers need to be on good growing land. Food is preserved and stored and shipped globally, it doesn't need to be grown where people live. People might need to move to escape excessive heat however.

Fwiw, areas in the north and west of England and Wales that are not cultivated or are just pastoral are usually so because they are quite unsuitable for arable or horticultural use (e.g. the Lake district, Snowdonia). And the UK is not like the US with vast tracts of empty land just waiting for someone to take it in hand.

 

[Mother of Chaos]

but humans are not like other animals or life-forms; many if not most humans today do not grow or find their own food, and only that tiny proportion, relatively speaking, that are food growers need to be on good growing land. Food is preserved and stored and shipped globally, it doesn't need to be grown where people live. People might need to move to escape excessive heat however.

Fwiw, areas in the north and west of England and Wales that are not cultivated or are just pastoral are usually so because they are quite unsuitable for arable or horticultural use (e.g. the Lake district, Snowdonia). And the UK is not like the US with vast tracts of empty land just waiting for someone to take it in hand.

Wall, I was speaking specifically of farmers, those trying to grow the same crops. And yeah, on the map there are all these vast areas, but they may not be suitable for agriculture even with warmer temps. Northern Canada, for instance. Finland.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

And the UK is not like the US with vast tracts of empty land just waiting for someone to take it in hand.

Out west a lot of that is federal (BLM) land.

 

[Perris]

Out west a lot of that is federal (BLM) land.

BLM = ?

 

[JAMarlow]

BLM = ?

BLM = Bureau of Land Management

 

[Perris]

If it's not a stupid question, what management is involved if the land in question is left natural?

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

If it's not a stupid question, what management is involved if the land in question is left natural?

It can be used for recreation and occasionally ranchers might be allowed to graze cattle on it. A person could pull off the highway and camp legally on BLM land, for instance, or hike without fear of trespassing. During hunting season I believe that’s also legal on BLM land. Don’t ask me what the federal government does though. I’m sure it’s less than they get tax money for

Edit to add there are roads through a lot of it and campgrounds all of which would have to be maintained

 

[Mother of Chaos]

Out west a lot of that is federal (BLM) land.

Well, for now, anyway. The developers are endlessly circling in the sky.

 

[Mother of Chaos]

And that all workers will carry a bilingual chart or something that can be used to communicate between workers and homeowners. You point to "stop, don't spray", and the workers can read it in their own language.

I should have added when I posted this (my brain is over-full today) that a chart like this works in both directions. Maybe the homeowner/ tenant doesn't speak English, and the worker does. Maybe neither speak the same language! - the homeowner speaks Spanish, the worker Ukrainian.

Google Translate can sorta work kinda, but often has hilariously wrong results. It's hard to go wrong with pictures, as long as the actual captions are correct.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

I should have added when I posted this (my brain is over-full today) that a chart like this works in both directions. Maybe the homeowner/ tenant doesn't speak English, and the worker does. Maybe neither speak the same language! - the homeowner speaks Spanish, the worker Ukrainian.

Google Translate can sorta work kinda, but often has hilariously wrong results. It's hard to go wrong with pictures, as long as the actual captions are correct.

I think NO is pretty well understood across many languages. And gestures lol. Which is why I should have been more assertive and there wouldn’t have been any room for misunderstanding