Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

Yes. My foragers forage all morning. Mid~day they will bath & rest, often on the back patio within sight & sound of me. By late afternoon they are looking for their hand out then will forage on their way to roost. Their present 1/4 acre yard has @ least 3 deep litter areas that are terrific foraging spots & favourites of everybody. Often the feed is just a top up.
 
These young hens have found a rooster that they prefer being around. He is Red's youngest son so he will be a good leader. We traded some roosters for the girls. Lety is quite the trader.
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Eight miles later...
Sunday is my "official" day off. C doesn't work on Sunday so nipping out to do the chickens shouldn't be any major inconvenience especially as C lives right next to the allotments.
When I got there today the feed trays were empty, the water was filthy and under half full. The chickens were hungry.
There is a view I've heard and read that chickens will carry on eating as long as there is food in front of them.
This is in fact incorrect. A chicken will eat until their crop is full.
Yes but they are always snacking I hear people say. Not so, and one has to consider how chickens eat.
For feral chickens and jungle fowl and even free range chickens fed a couple of times a day on limited rations it is a rare occasion they will find as much food in one go as humans supply.
If one watches chickens forage they eat what they find and move on to the next promising spot. One could be forgiven for thinking they are always eating but trying to fill a crop on forage can be a full time occupation. In places where forage is good they'll forage in the morning for a couple of hours and then look for cover and rest, making occasional trips out to find a bit more. Then in the late afternoon they'll attempt to fill their crops for the night.
The chickens digestive system doesn't stop; it works day and night, the crop drip feeding the gizzard and on the the rest of the digestive tract. It works at night while they are roosting. Here's an interesting question. Does a chicken have to be awake to poop? If so, judging by some of the piles I've seen they must have a very interrupted sleep.

The advice to always have feed available comes from an understanding of a chickens digestive system but ignores the keeping circumstances. So yes, for chickens confined in a coop and run having feed constantly available is necessary but for free range chickens it's often not necessary; they will forage enough to keep food in their digestive system.

In picture 2, that's Henry bringing his hens over when I got up and opened my rucksack.View attachment 3017604View attachment 3017606View attachment 3017607View attachment 3017608View attachment 3017604View attachment 3017606View attachment 3017607View attachment 3017608
Each time you go to tend the flock, you travel 8 miles to the allotment on two different busses, tend the birds & then travel 8 miles home on two different busses... because the person living next to the allotment _______ (oh SO many things come to mind.)

I'm grateful that you do this for them, and it appears that they're appreciative, too. They've come such a long way! Thank you for helping them to have a better life and for understanding that starvation rations are exactly that.

While I do love those beautiful girls, I have to say that Henry is quite a handsome rooster! The fact that he's polite to & looks out for the girls makes me like him all the more!
 
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I didn't forget. Maybe this will give you an idea about quantities I give as treats. This is for 19 chickens. There is a tin of haddock in there as well as chopped curly kale and cabbage and one slice of home baked wholemeal bread.View attachment 3017587
Thank you, Shad! That is helpful. I’ve been giving each morning, EITHER a shredded carrot plus a shredded zucchini, some shredded cabbage or chopped kale, a dairy treat (lowfat greek yogurt and/or cottage cheese), a can of unsalted sardines or chopped slice of beef liver, a pint of blueberries, a couple tomatoes, OR some combination of a couple things just listed here. They also get a little bit of sprouted wheat berries daily. I was doing 2 tablespoons sprouted four days for 10 chickens, but recently backed it down to one tablespoon after Flash’s soft egg (I don’t want to dilute tge calcium in tgeir feed too far… oyster shell is always available, but I think some of them who need it don’t eat it. They are getting about half an hour ranging after work, but will get an hour more after daylight savings kicks in this weekend. They get several hours on the weekends.

The birds seem very healthy with the exception of two, who still eat, poop, preen, forage and dust-bathe, but I don’t think they’re laying. As the days get longer, they will get more exercise. I sm moving soon, which will cause some stress and I hope it doesn’t push anyone over the edge.
 
@micstrachan
I didn't forget. Maybe this will give you an idea about quantities I give as treats. This is for 19 chickens. There is a tin of haddock in there as well as chopped curly kale and cabbage and one slice of home baked wholemeal bread.View attachment 3017587
Shad, I am curious. Why would you consider grass to be ‘forage’ and therefore freely available (assuming free ranging), but Kale and cabbage are ‘treats’ and should therefore be limited?
I also have definitive proof that chickens poop while asleep from sitting in the Chicken Palace two nights ago in order to catch a sample from Maggie to share with the vet. There is no doubt in my mind that the monster sample I nabbed for the vet was delivered by a deeply sleeping hen.
 
There is a view I've heard and read that chickens will carry on eating as long as there is food in front of them.
This is in fact incorrect. A chicken will eat until their crop is full.
Yes but they are always snacking I hear people say. Not so, and one has to consider how chickens eat.
When the ex-batts arrived we were feeding them twice a day and we really thought they were gluttons. They threw themselves on the feed to the point of jumping in our arms to have a go at it first. They always began screaming for hunger an hour before the second feeding. We were kind of worried. People told us to try to let them full feeders all day to eat as they would, and see how this went. This is what we do now, they waste a little more, but they're not worrying that they will be dying of hunger and acting like gluttons. In fact they usually don't eat for most of the afternoon, until an hour or so before bed.
I also have definitive proof that chickens poop while asleep from sitting in the Chicken Palace two nights ago in order to catch a sample from Maggie to share with the vet. There is no doubt in my mind that the monster sample I nabbed for the vet was delivered by a deeply sleeping hen.
😂😂😂. Yes, I was going to make the same kind of comment. Not the same circumstances but I have seen sleeping hens poop, definitely!

What I have always wondered, is whether egg laying woke them up. We had two hens that used to lay during the night for months , it was a pain because the eggs got poop all over.
 
When the ex-batts arrived we were feeding them twice a day and we really thought they were gluttons. They threw themselves on the feed to the point of jumping in our arms to have a go at it first. They always began screaming for hunger an hour before the second feeding. We were kind of worried. People told us to try to let them full feeders all day to eat as they would, and see how this went. This is what we do now, they waste a little more, but they're not worrying that they will be dying of hunger and acting like gluttons. In fact they usually don't eat for most of the afternoon, until an hour or so before bed.

😂😂😂. Yes, I was going to make the same kind of comment. Not the same circumstances but I have seen sleeping hens poop, definitely!

What I have always wondered, is whether egg laying woke them up. We had two hens that used to lay during the night for months , it was a pain because the eggs got poop all over.
I have had hens lay in the middle of the night but not from the roost. They few times it has happened they have come down from the roost in the dark and stumbled their way to the nest boxes.
 

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